roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by paulcn on July 14, 1997 at 05:36:45:
What kind of comments do salon people say in the back room about guys getting roller sets? It seems like I can't find anyplace in the Everett, Washington area to give me an appointment for one!
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by Nyghtfall on July 14, 1997 at 09:49:41:
In Reply to: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by paulcn on July 14, 1997 at 05:36:45:
: What kind of comments do salon people say in the back room about guys getting roller sets?
Hmmmm.... well, seein' as how I've never been in the back room of any salon I've ever been to (not to getting roller sets, mind you, but just getting a trim), I really don't know what stylists have to say about doing roller sets on men. Why don't you ask the ones you've been calling around on? The way I see it, they operate a business in which their very existance depends on people coming to get their hair done, regardless of gender, regardless of what the customer is wanting done with his/her hair. Of course, obviously there are limits to what a stylist/barber can do with anyone's hair, based on the training they receive.
: It seems like I can't find anyplace in the Everett, Washington area to give me an appointment for one!
Like I said above, why not ask them why? Or try calling some places outside of Everett.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by Paul on July 14, 1997 at 18:04:37:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Nyghtfall on July 14, 1997 at 09:49:41:
: : What kind of comments do salon people say in the back room about guys getting roller sets?
Why not try posting this on the Hairnet Hotline - this site has regular stylists posting to it - some of whom I am sure have done roller sets on guys.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by RM on July 14, 1997 at 19:58:25:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Paul on July 14, 1997 at 18:04:37:
My hairdresser is in Seattle (at Gary Manuel salon) and is quite happy to do whatever I want with my hair, including roll it. Currently my hair is in a bob just above my shoulders, and it looks great after being set on velcro rollers and going under the drier for half-an-hour. It definitely depends on finding a congenial and progressive hairdresser, usually at a salon with a younger clientele....as the man said, you're the client.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by Don on July 14, 1997 at 21:40:44:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by RM on July 14, 1997 at 19:58:25:
: My hairdresser is in Seattle (at Gary Manuel salon) and is quite happy to do whatever I want with my hair, including roll it. Currently my hair is in a bob just above my shoulders, and it looks great after being set on velcro rollers and going under the drier for half-an-hour. It definitely depends on finding a congenial and progressive hairdresser, usually at a salon with a younger clientele....as the man said, you're the client.
I agree. Finding the right hairdresser for getting roller sets is just as challenging for a guy as for a woman. I tried various salons over the course of a year, getting trims and just scoping the type of clientele they serve and the personality of the stylists. I finally found a small, neighbourhood salon run by a nice woman who had a lot of women, shampoo and set customers. After several trim appointments I came for an appointment with my hair curly from a home roller set. I casually mentioned that my wife sets my hair about once a week. As she was trimming my hair I asked if she could curl it. "Sure, no problem." That was the first of years of regular roller sets. We gradually progressed to more and more feminine styles as you can see in my pictures at on J.J.'s great "Rollerama" site:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/1183
I love to hear from other guys into salon roller sets.
Don (dbell@rocketmail.com)
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by R on July 15, 1997 at 09:25:33:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Don on July 14, 1997 at 21:40:44:
: : My hairdresser is in Seattle (at Gary Manuel salon) and is quite happy to do whatever I want with my hair, including roll it. Currently my hair is in a bob just above my shoulders, and it looks great after being set on velcro rollers and going under the drier for half-an-hour. It definitely depends on finding a congenial and progressive hairdresser, usually at a salon with a younger clientele....as the man said, you're the client.
: I agree. Finding the right hairdresser for getting roller sets is just as challenging for a guy as for a woman. I tried various salons over the course of a year, getting trims and just scoping the type of clientele they serve and the personality of the stylists. I finally found a small, neighbourhood salon run by a nice woman who had a lot of women, shampoo and set customers. After several trim appointments I came for an appointment with my hair curly from a home roller set. I casually mentioned that my wife sets my hair about once a week. As she was trimming my hair I asked if she could curl it. "Sure, no problem." That was the first of years of regular roller sets. We gradually progressed to more and more feminine styles as you can see in my pictures at on J.J.'s great "Rollerama" site:
: http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/1183
: I love to hear from other guys into salon roller sets.
: Don (dbell@rocketmail.com)
Don- When are we going to see some more photos at Rollerama? My wife has just recently discovered that she enjoys setting my hair in rollers and to my surprise I enjoy it too. I'm afraid that I'm still a little (maybe alot) too shy about it to go to a salon on a regular basis, althogh she went with me last Halloween to get something more elaborate done ( An updo that started at the base of my neck in a French braid and worked it's way UP the back of my head to the crown where the rest of my hair was arrainged in lots and lots of curls. Tell your hairdresser to try it out and post some pictures- again I'm afraid I'm still so new to this that I'm not quite ready for posting photos on the internet.) But it is encouraging and very interesting to see others who enjoy the same experience and my wife and I really enjoy your "finished product" updo pics. She's tried to give me the bottom one a couple of times and it has turned out fairly well-but not as good as your professional "do". Anyway-when will we see some more? How about "in progress" or "step by step" pics? We would also love to see the sides and front if you can figure out a way to do so and still feel secure. Anyway , we enjoy your posts and pics and thought we'd let you know it . Keep it up!
R.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by J.J. on July 14, 1997 at 23:42:39:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Paul on July 14, 1997 at 18:04:37:
: Why not try posting this on the Hairnet Hotline - this site has regular stylists posting to it - some of whom I am sure have done roller sets on guys.
Personally, I would recommend BeautyNet -- the last time I checked out HairNet (a few days ago) it had really degenerated even further into flames, profanity, name-calling, ridicule, you name it. The buzz boys and baldies have pretty much taken over that board, and you're liable to get harassed if you post your question there. BeautyNet, OTOH, seems to still be realitively sane and on-topic.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by J.J. on July 14, 1997 at 23:35:54:
In Reply to: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by paulcn on July 14, 1997 at 05:36:45:
: What kind of comments do salon people say in the back room about guys getting roller sets? It seems like I can't find anyplace in the Everett, Washington area to give me an appointment for one!
I find that hard to believe -- that's in the Seattle area more or less, right? Geez, over all the years I had my hair done, I could always find a salon willing to do it, even in relatively small, conservative towns sometimes. Those that did it ranged from the "ho-hum, who cares, hair is hair" attitude to those that really got a kick out of it. Keep calling around -- you'll find one.
As far as "comments in the back room" -- who cares? I didn't care what they said about me after I left, so long as they gave me a good set!!
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by Kathie on July 17, 1997 at 17:56:11:
In Reply to: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by paulcn on July 14, 1997 at 05:36:45:
: What kind of comments do salon people say in the back room about guys getting roller sets? It seems like I can't find anyplace in the Everett, Washington area to give me an appointment for one!
From K...
I don't know about Everett, but the best way in these parts to go to a
salon for a roller set is to be up front about what you want when you
call for the appontment. Then show up nicely dressed but casual (slacks or skirt, nice top, simple jewelry and makeup). Try to blend
in with the other patrons. Don't speak in a fakey voice but use less
tonal power. Your beauty operator will be the only one who knows your
secret. Besides, why go to the trouble of a roller set if your not going to get dressed up?
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by J.J. on July 18, 1997 at 04:46:09:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Kathie on July 17, 1997 at 17:56:11:
: I don't know about Everett, but the best way in these parts to go to
: a salon for a roller set is to be up front about what you want when
: you call for the appontment. Then show up nicely dressed but :casual (slacks or skirt, nice top, simple jewelry and makeup). Try to
: blend in with the other patrons. Don't speak in a fakey voice but use
: less tonal power. Your beauty operator will be the only one who
: knows your secret. Besides, why go to the trouble of a roller set if :your not going to get dressed up?
Katie, you err in thinking that any male who wants his hair roller set is automatically a crossdresser. This is not the case -- there are guys who simply like the kind of body and wave they get in their hair from rollers, and others who simply have a hair fetish without desiring to dress like a woman. When my hair was long and full enough in years gone by, I had my hair done in literally dozens of salons, usually in an updo, but always dressed as a male.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by Kathie on July 19, 1997 at 10:08:33:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by J.J. on July 18, 1997 at 04:46:09:
: Katie, you err in thinking that any male who wants his hair roller set is automatically a crossdresser. This is not the case -- there are guys who simply like the kind of body and wave they get in their hair from rollers, and others who simply have a hair fetish without desiring to dress like a woman. When my hair was long and full enough in years gone by, I had my hair done in literally dozens of salons, usually in an updo, but always dressed as a male.
J.J., I regret if I offended anyone as that wasn't my intent. As a woman and professional sylist, I have several regular male clients in the salon I work in. One of them I have gotten to know pretty well in the two years I have been there. He comes in dressed as a woman and does such a good job in his disguise, none of the other girls suspect she's a he. On the other hand, once your hair is rolled-up and you're under the drier, you can't hear anything anyway! I wear my own hair very short so I don't have to fuss with it, but love long haired men!
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by J.J. on July 19, 1997 at 16:54:49:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Kathie on July 19, 1997 at 10:08:33:
: : Katie, you err in thinking that any male who wants his hair roller set is automatically a crossdresser.
: J.J., I regret if I offended anyone as that wasn't my intent.
I'm sure no offense was taken by anyone, nor was I implying that you had in any way offended -- I was just wanting to debunk a stereotype of sorts.
So, tell us about some of the do's you've done on your male roller clients.
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by Nyghtfall on July 19, 1997 at 22:25:19:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by J.J. on July 18, 1997 at 04:46:09:
: Katie, you err in thinking that any male who wants his hair roller set is automatically a crossdresser.
Dude, lighten up. I saw sarcasm written all over her message. It's called "humor". :)
Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men?
Posted by J.J. on July 21, 1997 at 06:10:42:
In Reply to: Re: roller sets - what do salons feel about doing them on men? posted by Nyghtfall on July 19, 1997 at 22:25:19:
: : Katie, you err in thinking that any male who wants his hair roller set is automatically a crossdresser.
: Dude, lighten up. I saw sarcasm written all over her message. It's called "humor". :)
If you took a moment to read her reply, it wasn't sarcasm at all. She is a hairdresser, and the only male roller clients she has had have been crossdressers. I corrected a misconception -- she has now learned something she didn't know -- everything's cool.