TIPS for Hair Relaxer
Posted by PIERRE on November 26, 2001 at 22:03:24: Previous Next
For the people that want straight hair the only solution is HAIR RELAXER. The hair relaxer will depend by the texture of the hair. I recomend for all hair types the MILD HAIR RELAXER because it got more conditioners and less damaging chemicals. You should let it stand in the hair for no more that 10min if you want less damage and it will look more natural. The result will be: for curly hair (it will look a light wavy hair, and thats cool), for the wavy hair (it will look a lot straight), Ive always said that a completly straight hair is B-O-R-I-N-G BORING and life less, but a light wavy hair will look just fine. I have a wavy hair but I will take a step forward and use a mild hair relaxer this way the hair will look longer.
After the hair relaxer ALWAYS ALWAYS !!! use Neutralizer ( it will make a stop to the hair relaxer reaction) and it will protect more the hair. PLEASE NEVER GO MORE THAN 15min when using the hair relaxer it will dry the hair and a couple of weeks will look brittle BELIEVE ME! ( ALWAYS FOLLOW INSTRUCTION from the hair relaxer products, remember it has some chemecals that can damage your hair very easly.
WELL BYE BYE
Re: TIPS for Hair Relaxer
Posted by Santiago on November 27, 2001 at 16:45:49: Previous Next
In Reply to: TIPS for Hair Relaxer posted by PIERRE on November 26, 2001 at 22:03:24:
are you talking about the permanent or the temporal relaxers, because when I get my relaxer I'd love to get it permanent, not to be having to relax every certain time. I know the permanent is harsher, but I rather 1 harsh product, than a milder one that has to be applyied every month. I think it would be worst in the long run to use the temporal every month. Please answer.
Re: TIPS for Hair Relaxer
Posted by tock on November 28, 2001 at 00:53:40:
In Reply to: Re: TIPS for Hair Relaxer posted by Santiago on November 27, 2001 at 16:45:49:
: are you talking about the permanent or the temporal relaxers, because when I get my relaxer I'd love to get it permanent, not to be having to relax every certain time. I know the permanent is harsher, but I rather 1 harsh product, than a milder one that has to be applyied every month. I think it would be worst in the long run to use the temporal every month. Please answer.
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Um, chemical relaxer is goo you put on your hair and it affects only the hair above the skin . . . so when more hair grows out, it will be as curly as your genetics wants it to be.
BTW, if you put this stuff on, and let it grow out, and when it gets to be time to put relaxer on again, make XXXX sure you don't get any on the previously relaxed hair . . . or else the double dose will weaken the hair to the point where it can break off. Oh yeah, this is strong stuff.
And Relaxer comes in mild, medium, strong, and sometimes super strengths . . . you use the mild for baby-fine wavy hair, the strong stuff for very coarse very curly hair, and the rest for everything in between. Um, also, it comes in "base" and "no-base" flavors . . . with one of 'em (I forget which) you have to apply a cream-vaseline to the scalp before you apply.
When you apply this goo, you should section the hair into 4 parts (part right down the middle, and again from ear to ear). Then using the tip of a rat-tail comb, take 1/2" horizontal subsections, and use a brush (available at your local Sally's) to apply from 1/2" away from the scalp to 1" from the ends. Then when you're done with all 4 sections, go back and do the hair at the scalp and the ends. I wouldn't even try to do this myself . . . best to find a salon (I'd go to an ethnic salon where they do a lot of this) to do this . . .
--Tock
To Tock
Posted by jin on November 28, 2001 at 13:29:43:
In Reply to: Re: TIPS for Hair Relaxer posted by tock on November 28, 2001 at 00:53:40:
: Um, chemical relaxer is goo you put on your hair and it affects only the hair above the skin . . . so when more hair grows out, it will be as curly as your genetics wants it to be.
: BTW, if you put this stuff on, and let it grow out, and when it gets to be time to put relaxer on again, make XXXX sure you don't get any on the previously relaxed hair . . . or else the double dose will weaken the hair to the point where it can break off. Oh yeah, this is strong stuff.
: And Relaxer comes in mild, medium, strong, and sometimes super strengths . . . you use the mild for baby-fine wavy hair, the strong stuff for very coarse very curly hair, and the rest for everything in between. Um, also, it comes in "base" and "no-base" flavors . . . with one of 'em (I forget which) you have to apply a cream-vaseline to the scalp before you apply.
: When you apply this goo, you should section the hair into 4 parts (part right down the middle, and again from ear to ear). Then using the tip of a rat-tail comb, take 1/2" horizontal subsections, and use a brush (available at your local Sally's) to apply from 1/2" away from the scalp to 1" from the ends. Then when you're done with all 4 sections, go back and do the hair at the scalp and the ends. I wouldn't even try to do this myself . . . best to find a salon (I'd go to an ethnic salon where they do a lot of this) to do this . . .
: --Tock
Hi Tock, from your posts, it seemed that you're very knowledgeable on salon processes (relaxer, treatment etc.).
Just some simple questions to ask of you. Any idea what's "rebonding"? What are the products that they're using, and how harsh is it on one's hair? I've been very tempted to try it out as it makes the hair look really straight, silky and beautiful. I've also came to know that this process actually breaks down the interior core structure of the hair, which makes this process a permanent one with regards to that straightened portion.
Seeking your comments please. Thanks :)))
Cheers,
Jin
Re: To Jin
Posted by MG on November 29, 2001 at 00:34:01: Previous Next
In Reply to: To Tock posted by jin on November 28, 2001 at 13:29:43:
:
: Hi Tock, from your posts, it seemed that you're very knowledgeable on salon processes (relaxer, treatment etc.).
: Just some simple questions to ask of you. Any idea what's "rebonding"? What are the products that they're using, and how harsh is it on one's hair? I've been very tempted to try it out as it makes the hair look really straight, silky and beautiful. I've also came to know that this process actually breaks down the interior core structure of the hair, which makes this process a permanent one with regards to that straightened portion.
: Seeking your comments please. Thanks :)))
:
: Cheers,
: Jin
Jin, your hair is almost as close to perfect as you can get. So why
risk messing it up? As they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Have confidence in your hair!
Re: To Jin
Posted by Mike, Tonawanda ..Dude on November 29, 2001 at 05:43:24: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: To Jin posted by MG on November 29, 2001 at 00:34:01:
Jin.....
You have very beautiful hair......
Please do not change what "God" has gifted you with......
Any questions, email to me.....
may51mike@hotmail.com
I am a 50+ year young gur, that has been blessed to regrow my long hair, that - due to personal reasons - have had it short for over 20 years now.
I used to have mid back length hair when I was in my 20's
and now that I am on my 50's, I have .. once again the perfect job that allows me to regrow my favorite......long hair.
I love to chat, time permitting .. email me at the above address........
Re: To Jin
Posted by Mike, Tonawanda ..Dude on November 29, 2001 at 05:45:40: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: To Jin posted by MG on November 29, 2001 at 00:34:01:
To Jin:
(revised due to improper grammar and spelling)........
You have very beautiful hair......
Please do not change what "God" has gifted you with......
Any questions, email to me.....
may51mike@hotmail.com
I am a 50+ year young guy, and I have been blessed to regrow my long hair, that - due to personal reasons - I have had it short for over 20 years now.
I used to have mid back length hair when I was in my 20's
and now that I am on my 50's, I have .. once again the perfect job that allows me to regrow my favorite......long hair.
I love to chat, time permitting .. email me at the above address........
Thanks man! (n/m)
Posted by jin on November 29, 2001 at 08:31:46: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: To Jin posted by Mike, Tonawanda ..Dude on November 29, 2001 at 05:45:40:
n/m
Re: Thanks man! (n/m)
Posted by Tonawanda Dude on November 29, 2001 at 18:12:22: Previous Next
In Reply to: Thanks man! (n/m) posted by jin on November 29, 2001 at 08:31:46:
: n/m
You are very welcome........
Re: To Jin
Posted by jin on November 29, 2001 at 08:25:50: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: To Jin posted by MG on November 29, 2001 at 00:34:01:
MG bud, thanks for your encouragement :) ... again :)))
Re: To Tock
Posted by Tock on December 02, 2001 at 03:02:03:
In Reply to: To Tock posted by jin on November 28, 2001 at 13:29:43:
: : Um, chemical relaxer is goo you put on your hair and it affects only the hair above the skin . . . so when more hair grows out, it will be as curly as your genetics wants it to be.
: : BTW, if you put this stuff on, and let it grow out, and when it gets to be time to put relaxer on again, make XXXX sure you don't get any on the previously relaxed hair . . . or else the double dose will weaken the hair to the point where it can break off. Oh yeah, this is strong stuff.
: : And Relaxer comes in mild, medium, strong, and sometimes super strengths . . . you use the mild for baby-fine wavy hair, the strong stuff for very coarse very curly hair, and the rest for everything in between. Um, also, it comes in "base" and "no-base" flavors . . . with one of 'em (I forget which) you have to apply a cream-vaseline to the scalp before you apply.
: : When you apply this goo, you should section the hair into 4 parts (part right down the middle, and again from ear to ear). Then using the tip of a rat-tail comb, take 1/2" horizontal subsections, and use a brush (available at your local Sally's) to apply from 1/2" away from the scalp to 1" from the ends. Then when you're done with all 4 sections, go back and do the hair at the scalp and the ends. I wouldn't even try to do this myself . . . best to find a salon (I'd go to an ethnic salon where they do a lot of this) to do this . . .
: : --Tock
:
: Hi Tock, from your posts, it seemed that you're very knowledgeable on salon processes (relaxer, treatment etc.).
: Just some simple questions to ask of you. Any idea what's "rebonding"? What are the products that they're using, and how harsh is it on one's hair? I've been very tempted to try it out as it makes the hair look really straight, silky and beautiful. I've also came to know that this process actually breaks down the interior core structure of the hair, which makes this process a permanent one with regards to that straightened portion.
: Seeking your comments please. Thanks :)))
:
: Cheers,
: Jin
Thanks for the vote of confidence . . . Actually, I've been in hairdressing school for the past 4 months (retired after 22 years at another job; long story), and I've picked up a few things . . .
"Rebonding" was a term I wasn't familiar with until I did a quick web search on the word. Turns out it's just another word for "Perm." There are two basic ways to chemically straighten hair. One is the "relaxer," the high-power stuff that works with sodium hydroxide . . . and there's the stuff that works with ammonium thioglycolate, better known as "perm solution." Perm solution will take curly hair and make it pliable, then after 20 minutes or so, you have to apply the "fixative" (or "neutralizer") to firm it back up. When the hair is in its pliable state, you can twist it around perm rods if you want to curl it, or you can hold it straight if you want to take curl out. Then you apply the fixative, and it will firm back up, into curls or straight . . .
Seems to me the "Rebonding" (the word coming from re-forming cystene chemical bonds in the hair shaft) is just a new marketing scheme for an old process. It's a lot easier on hair than chemical relaxers, and is what I'd suggest if you're intent on straightening your hair . . .
Meanwhile, I'll check with my instructor and ask 'em about this rebonding business . . . we don't get much call for relaxers at our school, and no one has had a request for a "thio straightener" in quite a while, but I'll find out about it . . .
Sorry for the rambling . . . it's late (1 am) and I should really be in bed right now . . .
ttyl,
--Tock
Re: To Tock
Posted by jin on December 02, 2001 at 03:58:06: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: To Tock posted by Tock on December 02, 2001 at 03:02:03:
: Thanks for the vote of confidence . . . Actually, I've been in hairdressing school for the past 4 months (retired after 22 years at another job; long story), and I've picked up a few things . . .
: "Rebonding" was a term I wasn't familiar with until I did a quick web search on the word. Turns out it's just another word for "Perm." There are two basic ways to chemically straighten hair. One is the "relaxer," the high-power stuff that works with sodium hydroxide . . . and there's the stuff that works with ammonium thioglycolate, better known as "perm solution." Perm solution will take curly hair and make it pliable, then after 20 minutes or so, you have to apply the "fixative" (or "neutralizer") to firm it back up. When the hair is in its pliable state, you can twist it around perm rods if you want to curl it, or you can hold it straight if you want to take curl out. Then you apply the fixative, and it will firm back up, into curls or straight . . .
: Seems to me the "Rebonding" (the word coming from re-forming cystene chemical bonds in the hair shaft) is just a new marketing scheme for an old process. It's a lot easier on hair than chemical relaxers, and is what I'd suggest if you're intent on straightening your hair . . .
: Meanwhile, I'll check with my instructor and ask 'em about this rebonding business . . . we don't get much call for relaxers at our school, and no one has had a request for a "thio straightener" in quite a while, but I'll find out about it . . .
: Sorry for the rambling . . . it's late (1 am) and I should really be in bed right now . . .
: ttyl,
: --Tock
Thanks for that comprehensive explanation, Tock. That was exactly what some pro hairdressers told me too. I've been tryin' to enquire 'bout this "rebonding" thingy around the web and although it was being mentioned before, that this technique is popularized by the US, it seemed very few Americans knew about this term. Hence, I was suspecting that this term is only used locally (I'm from Singapore).
I guess in your country, it's still known as relaxing, yah?. In any case, your knowledge is definitely worth that vote of confidence :))
Cheers,
Jin
Wolves in sheeps' clothing
Posted by Bill on December 02, 2001 at 10:47:39: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: To Tock posted by Tock on December 02, 2001 at 03:02:03:
: : Any idea what's "rebonding"? What are the products that they're using, and how harsh is it on one's hair?
: "Rebonding" was a term I wasn't familiar with until I did a quick web search on the word. Turns out it's just another word for "Perm."
I think long and hard about getting involved with anything they've changed, or are attempting to change, the name of. It's most often an attempt to slip out from under a bad reputation. :-) Also, the more times they've changed its name, the worse a thing it probably is.
TO Santiago
Posted by Pierre on November 28, 2001 at 22:42:50: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: TIPS for Hair Relaxer posted by Santiago on November 27, 2001 at 16:45:49:
Santiago I am talking about permanent relaxer but the MILD one that is more easy for the hair. And another thing it doesnt matter if its mild or super strenght the two of them will last the depending on the growth of your hair and it doesnt matter what type of relaxer generally you have to apply it again every month like coloring the hair. But i dont recomend to apply each month the relaxer, but is a good idea for the akward stage to use it but not to abuse of it specially for the thick hair guys.
Well BYE