Hair Religion
Posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13: Previous Next
I have viewed your site before, but I took another look at it.
What is the difference between you trying to convince people to grow their hair not just long, but as long as it can grow, and a talk show host or hair stylist trying to convince someone to cut it?
Your site, which uses religion to envite, elevates you to a figure that has as much power as a host or stylist. The only difference is the size of the audience. I would welcome a show where you could bring your message to a bigger audience and make people grow their hair long.
My point is that neither you, nor the talk show hosts are "wrong". Maury Povitch and all these make-over shows apparently has an opinion/agenda and a platform to express it....and so do you. It is free speech.
Despite this being a small corner of the internet, it is still the internet. Perhaps I am the one who is wrong for challenging you in a place that is supposed to be safe. But the same can be said of a make-over show...they are a small corner of the tv world where a viewer can watch safely from those who dislike the program. No one is forcing anyone to participate in a make-over anymore than they are being convinced to grow their hair long from your religion.
With all of the sweeping generalizations bantering about, there is one stereotype about long haired people that I particularly like, and that is that long haired folks are open minded and peaceful oriented. Because we are a minority, everyone looks for a morsel of reason to dislike us. Short of violence, I ususally feel it is better to walk away from a fight. Unless someone trys to actually cut my hair without my consent, I have no problem ignoring them and getting on with my life. If I do fight back with a smart ass attitude, then it only make me AND ALL LONGHAIRED MEN look like the dirty, ignorant people they want to thing that we are (but are overwhelmingly not).
There is nothing wrong with my self-esteem, I just pick my battles very carefully.
I am in my mid-thirties and live on the west coast of the US. I work in the Arts. I may be naive and geographically limited in my personal long hair perspective, but there just doesn't seem to be much of a problem for long haired men where I am at, despite being a minority.
I apolgize for judging you and jumping to conclusions.
Preech your gospel.
Exercise your free speech.
Our discussion is now over as far as I am concerned.
Re: Hair Religion
Posted by Todd on October 04, 2003 at 15:49:26: Previous Next
In Reply to: Hair Religion posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13:
: What is the difference between you trying to convince people to grow their hair not just long, but as long as it can grow, and a talk show host or hair stylist trying to convince someone to cut it?
I've never felt Hair Religion tries to convince people to grow their hair long. If such suggestions are there on his website somewhere I've sure never noticed them.
Re: Hair Religion
Posted by Nick on October 04, 2003 at 18:41:12: Previous Next
In Reply to: Hair Religion posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13:
: I have viewed your site before, but I took another look at it.
: What is the difference between you trying to convince people to grow their hair not just long, but as long as it can grow, and a talk show host or hair stylist trying to convince someone to cut it?
The difference between the two is Maury Povich and these make over shows badger you, harangue you and gulit you into doing what they
want.
Hair Religion doesn't do that, he just has a web site with his
opionions. Maury has a television show that is watched by
millions, has a huge audience in the studio to help
"persuade" you to cut your hair, and has the guilt of groups
like LOL.
I have a great deal of contempt for people like Maury and some these
other make over shows. I have absolutely no contempt for hair
religion.
Re: Hair Religion
Posted by John.B on October 04, 2003 at 20:17:35: Previous Next
In Reply to: Hair Religion posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13:
Oh please I've met Eric and he's a nice person "remember the pink frog diner" and I don't think he'd use his religious view for that.
Cheers,
John.B
Re: Hair Religion
Posted by Hair Religion on October 04, 2003 at 22:42:52: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Hair Religion posted by John.B on October 04, 2003 at 20:17:35:
Dude, good to hear from you again. I think it was the Purple cow or something like that.
What's the difference?
Posted by LucksKind on October 04, 2003 at 20:44:10: Previous Next
In Reply to: Hair Religion posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13:
Well, if you do as Maury Povich wants you to do, you will end up
cutting off many months...maybe even YEARS worth of growth.
And the only way to 'reverse' the effects of what Maury ask for...
is to go through the awkward phases all over again (as if tht weren't enough!)...
and then to wait (in some cases) for YEARS just to get back
to where you once were...
The decision to GROW, on the other hand, can be reversed at any time
without suffering all of those above-mentioned consequences...
That's the difference...but...
Good Luck, anyway
You should try reading my site next time
Posted by Hair Religion on October 04, 2003 at 23:14:13: Previous Next
In Reply to: Hair Religion posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13:
I'm so eeeeevil!
I'm glad you apologized but you still mischaracterized me and what I say in the same post so I'm not sure that this means anything.
I don't know that you did pick this "battle" very carefully as you are just flailing around. It's a pretty common retort that if you have long hair and don't behave like me or say the things I like to hear then you are giving all longhairs a bad name. That means nothing.
I have never tried to convince people to grow their hair long and don't wish to...why? Because I know that it is not for everyone, one has to step up to the plate on their own. My site is not there to promote growing long hair but to provide information for those who ARE growing their hair (pretty obivous if you read it).
I don't USE religion but rather identify and define for many what having long hair can amount to (also obivous if you read what is on my site).
Re: Hair Religion
Posted by Brian on October 05, 2003 at 01:29:31: Previous Next
In Reply to: Hair Religion posted by Steve on October 04, 2003 at 12:59:13:
Hair Religion doesn't try and "persuade" people to grow their hair, push his views onto people, or pull a longhair "dominance" on anyone.
What he DOES is provide very helpful and factual information to those that are choosing to grow their hair. Obviously he never told them to do it to begin with; they come here and subsequently come to him for answers.
So in the future, try not to make baseless arguments against people. Especially Hair Religion, a person that we could use MORE of here if anything.
- Brian