Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon
Posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 18:57:47: Previous Next
Well it looks like my school isn't going to leave me alone about my hair after all. The disciplinarian started telling me to get it cut to above my eyebrows again today, and he wants to see it when it's done. Looks like I'm not as cool with him as I thought I was. This time there's no getting out of it. I'm gonna have to cut my length in half. I've been growing from a shaved head for about 9 months, and my hair is only down to the tip of my nose when pulled straight. So basically, I'm going to lose half of the time I've already spent growing. Looks like my school has screwed me again.
disciplanarian what an evil word
Posted by Scott on February 19, 2002 at 20:31:32: Previous Next
In Reply to: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 18:57:47:
I'm sorry it's coming to this man. Why do people think they have the right to tell other people how they can look, especially when it comes to clean, neat hair. I really don't know what to tell you to do, but if it was me I might ignore his request and see what happens next, but I can't really speak for you.. Did you say your parents are for or against his request? If you can get your parents on your side it might help.
Good luck
Re: disciplanarian what an evil word
Posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 20:44:31: Previous Next
In Reply to: disciplanarian what an evil word posted by Scott on February 19, 2002 at 20:31:32:
I would ignore his request but the thing is he can expel me. This is my last year of highschool, and with only a few months left you'd think the guy would just leave me alone for the rest of the time. But apparently unreasonable rules are more important to him just because of the fact that they're rules than common sense and generosity are. My mom isn't on my side at all. She's more neutral than against me; but she thinks I should just comply with the rules and not stand up for myself because obviously she isn't very thrilled about me growing my hair out; and she doesn't think it's something worth fighting for anyway. So I'm just gonna have to cut it; there's no other alternative.
Re: something to consider...
Posted by burr on February 19, 2002 at 21:31:21: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: disciplanarian what an evil word posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 20:44:31:
one suggestion possibly - you could perhaps have it permed with a lot of curl to take up the length and still maintain some length that way. I know it's not the best thing for hair and may not be a viable option either, but it's an idea...
Re: something to consider...
Posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 22:48:17:
In Reply to: Re: something to consider... posted by burr on February 19, 2002 at 21:31:21:
nah...thanks anyway though
Re: something to consider...
Posted by Cheeky Monkey on February 20, 2002 at 10:23:37:
In Reply to: Re: something to consider... posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 22:48:17:
: nah...thanks anyway though
When I was a kid i used to have a similar problem at school, and what I did was give the guy some shit about how your have been cast in a play/tv production whatever, and you have to have long hair for the part. Explain to him how you yourself really hate it, and cant wait to have it short again e.t.c... and spin some stuff about how you really need the money for college and stuff. If your a good liar, this could well work.
Good Luck man, and dont give into to these folks - he was obviously abused as a child or something.
Re: something to consider...
Posted by Jeremy on February 20, 2002 at 18:06:22: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: something to consider... posted by Cheeky Monkey on February 20, 2002 at 10:23:37:
Heh...good suggestion, but unfortunately it wouldn't work. I know my school too well, and they still wouldn't stand for it. They're all about image, and that image has to be the perfect, stereotypical, acceptable to society male. We have kids who are actors at my school and participate in programs outside of school. The school doesn't even let them grow their hair long. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Re: something to consider...
Posted by ScotsmanJohn on February 20, 2002 at 22:01:44: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: something to consider... posted by Jeremy on February 20, 2002 at 18:06:22:
Screw that school and any like it. Any school to opresses individuality is morally wrong. Who are they to tell people (Especially young people still trying to find out what they want to be and look like) what to do and how to look. A friend of mine had his parents transfer him to a public school in a somewhat similar situation (He liked to wear his families tartan colors to school) and the British bastards dress code stated that no male is permitted to wear dresses or skirts. He just transfered to a school without that dress code. Thats what I get for spending a year in England. The grass isn't greener on the other side of the island.
Re: disciplanarian what an evil word
Posted by longhairedman on February 20, 2002 at 09:29:32: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: disciplanarian what an evil word posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 20:44:31:
: I would ignore his request but the thing is he can expel me. This is my last year of highschool, and with only a few months left you'd think the guy would just leave me alone for the rest of the time. But apparently unreasonable rules are more important to him just because of the fact that they're rules than common sense and generosity are. My mom isn't on my side at all. She's more neutral than against me; but she thinks I should just comply with the rules and not stand up for myself because obviously she isn't very thrilled about me growing my hair out; and she doesn't think it's something worth fighting for anyway. So I'm just gonna have to cut it; there's no other alternative.
: Jeremy, I resent what you are going through right now. I find catholic schools very hypocritical in that our lord has long hair, but these schools do not allow boys to have their hair long. Thank GOD I went to public school (not to rub it in)!!!! I was able to grow my hair out in public school since there is separation between church and state. In any event, I RECOMMEND that you trim your hair at a minimum to barely meet school regulations. You don't have long before you graduate from this school, but the good thing about hair is that it grows back. Another good thing is that once you graduate from this school, the shackles which bind you (which I feel should not be on you in the first place)to this regulation are removed and you are a FREE man (that's right, MAN)!!!! You can grow your hair the way you wish!!! It's a SHAME you can not have long hair as a teenager in catholic school. My heart goes out to you. Good luck!!!!
Thanks
Posted by Jeremy on February 20, 2002 at 18:07:45: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: disciplanarian what an evil word posted by longhairedman on February 20, 2002 at 09:29:32:
: Jeremy, I resent what you are going through right now. I find catholic schools very hypocritical in that our lord has long hair, but these schools do not allow boys to have their hair long. Thank GOD I went to public school (not to rub it in)!!!! I was able to grow my hair out in public school since there is separation between church and state. In any event, I RECOMMEND that you trim your hair at a minimum to barely meet school regulations. You don't have long before you graduate from this school, but the good thing about hair is that it grows back. Another good thing is that once you graduate from this school, the shackles which bind you (which I feel should not be on you in the first place)to this regulation are removed and you are a FREE man (that's right, MAN)!!!! You can grow your hair the way you wish!!! It's a SHAME you can not have long hair as a teenager in catholic school. My heart goes out to you. Good luck!!!!
Thanks for the support; it's greatly appreciated.
I looked at your original posts..
Posted by Scott on February 19, 2002 at 20:57:07: Previous Next
In Reply to: disciplanarian what an evil word posted by Scott on February 19, 2002 at 20:31:32:
Come to think of it, since you are so close to graduating if I were you I would give in to their nazi ways just until you graduate. That way you don't jeopardize your chances of getting the f*ck out of that narrow minded institution. It would be a real drag for them to do something that keeps you there longer. It will only take about 6 months to grow back 3"..
Scott
Did you let it hang loose?
Posted by Dave on February 19, 2002 at 20:43:44: Previous Next
In Reply to: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 18:57:47:
Did you let your hair hang out loose so it fell in front of your face? That may be the problem.
I used to go to a school with strict hair rules. One guy I know got around it by slicking his hair back with gel. It looked perfectly conservative. He had to let the hair in the back and sides remain short, but when we graduated he let it all grow out.
Re: Did you let it hang loose?
Posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 20:47:42: Previous Next
In Reply to: Did you let it hang loose? posted by Dave on February 19, 2002 at 20:43:44:
I part my hair in the middle, but I comb it back and to the sides so that it's not in my face at all. The disciplinarian is a really anal guy though; he comes up to me and pulls it down to see how long it really is. Oh yeah, and we aren't allowed to use gel anyway. See how retarded my school's system is?
Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon
Posted by M. on February 19, 2002 at 20:52:51: Previous Next
In Reply to: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 18:57:47:
I read these posts and, i'm sorry to Jeremy if i'm wrong and i apologize in advance, but all this story doesn't look very believable. C'mon, is all this for real or are you just having fun making up these wild fables?
Why can't you believe it?
Posted by Scott on February 19, 2002 at 20:59:03: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by M. on February 19, 2002 at 20:52:51:
There are still many places like this right here in 21st century America that do not value self expression and individuality. A lot of places are run by closed minded nazi's. Sounds pretty believable to me.
Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon
Posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 22:48:12:
In Reply to: Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by M. on February 19, 2002 at 20:52:51:
Um...yes it's very real. I don't know where you live or what kind of school you went to, but where I live and in the private, all male, Catholic school I attend it's not uncommon. What's up with people on this board not believing other people's hair misfortunes lately? Do you all think the world all good and happy and that nothing really bad ever truly happens? I'm sorry if I sound like an asshole saying all this but damn...come on.
Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon
Posted by Doug on February 19, 2002 at 23:16:08: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by M. on February 19, 2002 at 20:52:51:
I've seen some postings that look dubious, but I believe Jeremy's story. It sounds like his school has some rule about guy's hair having to be "natural", so he can't even use gel, or curl it, or do much of anything. There certainly are dress codes like that.
Jeremy, I feel bad for you in your situation. Much as I hate to say it, it doesn't seem that you really have any option except to cut it. I guess maybe just try to cut it the absolute mininum amount necessary. Good luck.
Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon
Posted by M. on February 20, 2002 at 05:21:08: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by M. on February 19, 2002 at 20:52:51:
Like i said, i apologized if i was wrong, it is just that this kid's situation is simply so stupid and absurd. But it had to happen in america. I live in europe so i am not used to this kind of things, though i don't doubt they probably happen here too. But anyway, good luck in whatever you have to do.
Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon
Posted by tock on February 20, 2002 at 20:51:50: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by M. on February 19, 2002 at 20:52:51:
: I read these posts and, i'm sorry to Jeremy if i'm wrong and i apologize in advance, but all this story doesn't look very believable. C'mon, is all this for real or are you just having fun making up these wild fables?
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Oh yes . . . happens here in Texas all the time. Occasionally some student will put up a fuss, but the school district inevitably wins. Confirms my view that education institutions aren't much more than warehouses . . . poor kid's minds put on assembly lines and crammed with info . . . creativity stifled. Ugh.
Oh well, hang in there . . . fortuneately the whole world isn't like that . . .
--Tock
Got It Cut :(
Posted by Jeremy on February 20, 2002 at 20:24:14: Previous Next
In Reply to: Looks Like I Spoke Too Soon posted by Jeremy on February 19, 2002 at 18:57:47:
Just got it cut. Naturally I think it looks horrible. I guess I'll have to just hope that my growth rate miraculously speeds up or that time passes really quickly. All I know is, I'm never cutting my hair again; I don't care if they start bitching again or what they want to do to me.
Heheh, an idea.... ;)
Posted by John Laughlin on February 20, 2002 at 21:28:07: Previous Next
In Reply to: Got It Cut :( posted by Jeremy on February 20, 2002 at 20:24:14:
Jeremy, here's an idea. After you've got your hair grown out to where you want it, drop by the school and say "Hi". Show them that they're complete morons for requiring guys to cut their hair and that longhaired guys can turn out to be perfectly normal people. I'd do this once your 'tail extends down to your waist... Watch their reactions. They'd probably upchuck their lunches. ;)
-J (Glad I'm 26...)
: Just got it cut. Naturally I think it looks horrible. I guess I'll have to just hope that my growth rate miraculously speeds up or that time passes really quickly. All I know is, I'm never cutting my hair again; I don't care if they start bitching again or what they want to do to me.
Re: Heheh, an idea.... ;)
Posted by longhairedman on February 21, 2002 at 09:09:40: Previous Next
In Reply to: Heheh, an idea.... ;) posted by John Laughlin on February 20, 2002 at 21:28:07:
: Jeremy, here's an idea. After you've got your hair grown out to where you want it, drop by the school and say "Hi". Show them that they're complete morons for requiring guys to cut their hair and that longhaired guys can turn out to be perfectly normal people. I'd do this once your 'tail extends down to your waist... Watch their reactions. They'd probably upchuck their lunches. ;)
: -J (Glad I'm 26...)
: Good Idea!!! But tell them you have the actual "Jesus Christ" look.
Re: Heheh, an idea.... ;)
Posted by John Laughlin on February 21, 2002 at 13:49:50: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Heheh, an idea.... ;) posted by longhairedman on February 21, 2002 at 09:09:40:
: : Good Idea!!! But tell them you have the actual "Jesus Christ" look. Agreed! LOL They'd probably run in the other direction. Or come out with their bibles, thumping them as they arrive...
-J (christian, but non-church goer)
Re: Heheh, an idea.... ;)
Posted by Jeremy on February 21, 2002 at 18:41:25: Previous Next
In Reply to: Heheh, an idea.... ;) posted by John Laughlin on February 20, 2002 at 21:28:07:
: Jeremy, here's an idea. After you've got your hair grown out to where you want it, drop by the school and say "Hi". Show them that they're complete morons for requiring guys to cut their hair and that longhaired guys can turn out to be perfectly normal people. I'd do this once your 'tail extends down to your waist... Watch their reactions. They'd probably upchuck their lunches. ;)
: -J (Glad I'm 26...)
Heh...actually there are a lot of students who come back after they graduate to do that very thing. They all have their hair down to at least somewhere in between the chin level and shoulder level, and at my school that kind of length is considered horrendous and absolutely unacceptable. I do have to go back sometime after I graduate to pick up a year book. Maybe then we'll see what they have to say when there isn't a damn thing they can do to me. :)
Re: Heheh, an idea.... ;)
Posted by John Laughlin on February 22, 2002 at 03:23:50: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Heheh, an idea.... ;) posted by Jeremy on February 21, 2002 at 18:41:25:
: Heh...actually there are a lot of students who come back after they graduate to do that very thing. They all have their hair down to at least somewhere in between the chin level and shoulder level, and at my school that kind of length is considered horrendous and absolutely unacceptable. I do have to go back sometime after I graduate to pick up a year book. Maybe then we'll see what they have to say when there isn't a damn thing they can do to me. :)
Just, whatever you do, wait until you have a long enough ponytail to slap the guy across his face with it... :) If my high school had been this way, I would've done the same. But, luckily, it wasn't (two guys in my grade level had hair that ranged from shoulder length to mid-back length when I left).
-J