Job Interviews...
Posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00: Previous Next
I just got home from a job interview and I gotta say... I'm royally *^%%#$.. Now, I'm a high school senior, and I need a freakin' job to help myself get a vehicle, into college, etc etc.. The best I could do at the moment was this local convienent store..it's walking distance from my apartment, but that doesn't matter (I have no car..so I can't drive to work..heh). The place sells alcohol, and I'm not 18 for two months.. but through the course of the interview the guy was like "now, I'll tell you this, you'll have to get a haircut..and we don't allow men to wear jewelry here." He was referring for my shoulder-length locks, and my two left ear piercings.
What's the big deal?! Seriously, I'm hard up for work here and people are going to keep someone from employment due to the length of their hair and some gitzy jewelry? ...It's really frustrating me. Does anyone know of a place...or what types of places... a kid like me can get a job and keep my hair? I'm desprate here.. but not desprate enough to cut two-years of growth for a job that pays minimum wage...
Well...
Posted by Santiago on February 06, 2003 at 17:15:43: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
:I'll tell you something, 8 months ago I cut a big chunck of my hair to get a car sales job. I cried for weeks and still do somethimes. THere is no point in cutting your hair for a job, you have 1,000 possibilities, trust me, a lot of bars and restaurants hired longhaired guys, I learned that late. Don't make a mistake, I hated myself and I wasn't shoulder length. Otherwise, you could sue the guy's ass
Yeah..
Posted by Shugotenshi on February 07, 2003 at 16:25:40: Previous Next
In Reply to: Well... posted by Santiago on February 06, 2003 at 17:15:43:
Well, I talked to my Business teacher at school about it, because needless to say, I was *&^^#$. His 'professional' 'business' advice? Apply for a job IN THE BACK OF A STORE! Or else, night shift. This guy at the interview yesterday, he told me that my work history was GREAT, and even used the word IMPRESSIVE. I was kind, courteous, and I always wear my hair in a ponytail anyway..unless I'm just around the house.. so it's not like it was sloppy.
My teacher was all saying it isn't right, and it isn't. But, he said, it's how companies are. Aparantly they like a certain 'image' for their employees. I find it sad.. as well as frustrating. I mean, yeah, I can understand the piercings, and I'd of gladly removed 'em. The hair I find to be a problem. And EVERYONE I've talked to about it both online, and at school..let alone my family.. agrees that it's wrong. I'm even tempted to contact that organization for equal opportunity employment, or something. I mean, I wouldn't get this job for a few months anyway 'cause I'm not old enough to sell liquor yet, but the hair comment could've gone unsaid.
I'm still looking, and thanks for the sugguestions. I still have an application in at a local Walgreens (pharmacy/drug store).. doubt they'd hire me,what with all the elderly that go through there and the stereotypical outlook of those who had children during the 70's... heh.. but i'm still trying. I'm just one broke longhair until then. No job's worth cutting two-years of long hard work for, though..
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by Gollan on February 06, 2003 at 17:24:34: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
I suggest you follow up with a gracious email or phone call and tell him how you would really like to work in his store and how you are a good worker. Then politely ask him if you could wear your hair neatly tied back instead of cutting it short. This may seem simplistic but believe me, most potential convenience store employees would not bother to call back and ask for a change in the hair policy. The fact that you would do this *MAY* impress the owner by showing him that you are keen to work there and are willing to solve problems. It could work but if it doesn't it will at least give you practice for future job inteviews (in your professional career you will routinely negotiate terms with a potential employer - everything from your salary to the size of your office). Good luck to you and let us know what happens.
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by pvevan on February 06, 2003 at 20:28:16: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
Hey,
i was in your position in the begining of the year. I almost cut it, but I came hear for words of encouragment. A job finally came through. I'm working at a elementary school, and no one has said anything negative.
As far as the employer...F*** him. He's a guy working a convenient store job, getting off on the power because he thinks if he says jump, you'll ask "how high." I've heard Home Depot hire us, and many restaurants will too. Just look at the staff and type of restaurant. The ones I got call back on were more trendy and just gave of a feeling of openmindedness.
Employers think that because they are paying you they can exploit you. I had a guy say he wanted me to work graveyards sun night. the afternoon shift on monday, morning and swing on wednesday and afternoon on thurday. Think about that schedule all for $7.00 an hour. Keep your head up, and something will come through.
DO NOT cut your hair, but I'd take out the piercing for the interview and when you work. They won't close up anyway, so its not a BFD.
Keep in clean, keep it tied back, and be responsible and competent.
Cheers Evan
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by Marco on February 07, 2003 at 01:58:37: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Job Interviews... posted by pvevan on February 06, 2003 at 20:28:16:
: Hey,
: i was in your position in the begining of the year. I almost cut it, but I came hear for words of encouragment. A job finally came through. I'm working at a elementary school, and no one has said anything negative.
: As far as the employer...F*** him. He's a guy working a convenient store job, getting off on the power because he thinks if he says jump, you'll ask "how high." I've heard Home Depot hire us, and many restaurants will too. Just look at the staff and type of restaurant. The ones I got call back on were more trendy and just gave of a feeling of openmindedness.
: Employers think that because they are paying you they can exploit you. I had a guy say he wanted me to work graveyards sun night. the afternoon shift on monday, morning and swing on wednesday and afternoon on thurday. Think about that schedule all for $7.00 an hour. Keep your head up, and something will come through.
: DO NOT cut your hair, but I'd take out the piercing for the interview and when you work. They won't close up anyway, so its not a BFD.
: Keep in clean, keep it tied back, and be responsible and competent.
: Cheers Evan
Dude try Walmart I hear they have a lot of longhaired guys!
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by nWo_Slapnut on February 06, 2003 at 21:26:54: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
:the guy was like "now, I'll tell you this, you'll have to get a haircut..and we don't allow men to wear jewelry here." He was referring for my shoulder-length locks, and my two left ear piercings.
If I knew for sure that the remark was directed at simply at having long hair and not so much the way in which its worn, I would've just got up and left (Perhaps giving him a StoneCold Stunner on my way out). If I was still as naive about jobs as I used to be, I might've posed a question inquiring as to whether having short was a standard policy with equal relevance to male applicants as well as those of the female gender.
NUTS!
Posted by Mark R on February 06, 2003 at 21:42:50: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
A CONVENIENCE store wants you to cut your hair??? Man I worked at a convenience store with a bunch of long-haired black wearing cocaine snorting alcoholic freaks for many years and nobody cared....it must be a convenience store in the nice part of town or something.... anyways that really doesn't make sense. If I were you, here's what I'd do....
I'd take the job but just not get my hair cut. Once I was working, if he decided to mention more about it, I'd ignore it until he was threatening to fire me, which probably would not happen, but if it did, well hey at least you got paid for like a week or two. Better than nothing, and you'd still be hunting for a job anyway. Of course this might be a sore spot on your future applications so it's your own risk.... just be the best worker ever and you shouldn't have a problem. The ear-piercing is understandable, you should be able to work without those. (It's not like we can just take our hair off and on between shifts)
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by hippiesucker on February 07, 2003 at 01:58:42: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
Hey Dude,
Everyone in the preceding post's seem to have covered all the bases!!!! Don't cut it!!!!!!!!!
~Hippiesucker
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by Rokker on February 07, 2003 at 08:37:36: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
: "now, I'll tell you this, you'll have to get a haircut..and we don't allow men to wear jewelry here."
I'd have posed the question...
"Do you accept money from men with long hair who wear jewelry?"
I would then have told him that not only am I no longer interested in the job, but also will no longer shop there and will spread the word to as many people as I can and so all I can to affect their bottom line.
You won't get the job anyway, so there is no need to be polite or friendly. If ever faced with an unfriendly interview, always fire back.
Then follow through! Get some longhairs to go in, pick out a few things, take them to the counter, then have them say..."oh wait, you won't hire people like me, so I'll just spend my money elsewhere." Then have them leave everything they picked out at the counter and leave. It's a very effective tactic and shows them you were serious.
I've done this before.
In the meantime, don't cut and find a real job! There are many employers who will take you "as is".
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by RedRocker on February 08, 2003 at 01:34:37: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
Hey -- welcome brother. I'm sure that you're much younger than me (say -- about 15 years or so). Look for something else. Convenience stores are the worst. I've never worked at one, but it looks like the people really hate it. Did I forget to mention that you may be taking your life in your hands working there? Don't even bother. You can easily find a much better job. I realize that you are quite young (compared to me), but, I would pick something that has some sort of future. Is there any chance you could do some kind of "apprenticeship" type of job? Maybe auto-mechanic or something like that (well, computers would be really good). Sometimes, that involves knowing the right person (or NOT).
I just got my brakes done (about a month ago). Now, they squeak constantly. I suppose I'll have to fix them myself. Bunch of incompetants (SP?). I'm sure you could do better!
Anyway -- good luck!!
-- Sincerely,
RedRocker
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by Victor on February 08, 2003 at 12:01:24: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Job Interviews... posted by RedRocker on February 08, 2003 at 01:34:37:
Hmmm -- any longhaired automechanics on board? That seems like a job where long hair would be a liability. Regarding the squeaking brakes, I would guess the problem is not one of incompetence but of parts. Some materials, especially the cheap third party substitutes, will squeak more than others. There's anti-squeak stuff you can spray on them, but it's be far better to just get brake pads made with the right stuff.
Thanks Victor
Posted by RedRocker on February 08, 2003 at 13:46:41: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Job Interviews... posted by Victor on February 08, 2003 at 12:01:24:
Thanks for the advice. The squeaking can be embarassing (SP?)!. I sprayed some brake cleaner on it (but only got one side of the disc -- it was night and I didn't have a flashlight). They often squeak while driving and not touching the brakes. I've heard that the metallic pads can cause this. I don't know, I've done brakes (well, the pads) before and never had this problem! Oh well, I'll check them when I get new tires next week.
Keep on growing!!
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by John L. on February 12, 2003 at 14:55:42: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Job Interviews... posted by Victor on February 08, 2003 at 12:01:24:
Victor, I'm not a professional mechanic, but, I do work on my own cars... What I usually do is a bun near the crown of the head, then use a Safeway grocery bag over that (yes, I've gotten the usual ribbing for it and it does look funny). Works like a charm.
With respect to the brake pads, I agree with you. Personally, on my cars (which are Volvos), I use PBR MetalMaster pads, which are available for most cars/trucks out there. Quiet, very little brake dust, and no fading.
-J
: Hmmm -- any longhaired automechanics on board? That seems like a job where long hair would be a liability. Regarding the squeaking brakes, I would guess the problem is not one of incompetence but of parts. Some materials, especially the cheap third party substitutes, will squeak more than others. There's anti-squeak stuff you can spray on them, but it's be far better to just get brake pads made with the right stuff.
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by dayton on February 08, 2003 at 04:43:48: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
I got the same thing at a Chick-Fil-A interview once. That's just straight up sexist! If a girl had gone in for an interview with even loger hair than mine there would have been no problems, but since I've got a penis, my hair length will apparently drive customers away or something.
Hobby Lobby hired me as a stocker, the manager said as long as I kept my hair pulled back he wouldn't have a problem with it. I worked at White Wing Christian Bookstore for nearly a year with my hair down and flowing, and all I ever got was compliments on how good it looked. If anything my long hair attracted customers, not drive them away!
If it makes you feel any better...
Posted by Aaron on February 09, 2003 at 13:39:56: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
Well, if it makes you feel in better, Shugotenshi, I'll be in the same situation in about 7 months. I have a bit over 5 1/2 inches on top, and by the time I'll be looking for a job this coming fall, it'll be about 9 inches long. *Hopefully* I will be going to a university, and I hope I can get a job on campus. I hope they don't discrimanate...
Re: Job Interviews...
Posted by Dawn on February 16, 2003 at 16:07:52: Previous Next
In Reply to: Job Interviews... posted by Shugotenshi on February 06, 2003 at 16:50:00:
Welcome to the REAL world , Get ready for a lifetime of discrimination. Everyone knows just how important it is to be neat and presentable when in the employ of the corner convience store !! NO ONE wants to hire a nice young man who has long hair and his ears pierced. Im amazed you have not captured that by now. If you really want to follow your heart and seek employment in such establishments let me attempt to help you with some tips I think would be most benificial... Develope an accent wherein no one in the western hemisphere can possibly understand what you are saying, dye your hair jet black and wrap a turbine around it and go 5 days between shaving. All these will certainly help you secure a position in this lucretive field of employment. There are thoudands of jobs you can find if you are neat and clean when you apply for a job. Don't be discouraged.
: I just got home from a job interview and I gotta say... I'm royally *^%%#$.. Now, I'm a high school senior, and I need a freakin' job to help myself get a vehicle, into college, etc etc.. The best I could do at the moment was this local convienent store..it's walking distance from my apartment, but that doesn't matter (I have no car..so I can't drive to work..heh). The place sells alcohol, and I'm not 18 for two months.. but through the course of the interview the guy was like "now, I'll tell you this, you'll have to get a haircut..and we don't allow men to wear jewelry here." He was referring for my shoulder-length locks, and my two left ear piercings.
: What's the big deal?! Seriously, I'm hard up for work here and people are going to keep someone from employment due to the length of their hair and some gitzy jewelry? ...It's really frustrating me. Does anyone know of a place...or what types of places... a kid like me can get a job and keep my hair? I'm desprate here.. but not desprate enough to cut two-years of growth for a job that pays minimum wage...