Tails: positioning and terms
Posted by Gollan on February 07, 2003 at 16:10:16: Previous Next
The answers may be obvious when I get to the tail stage (in a year or so) but I'm curious...
When you part your hair and make a tail... approximately where on the back of the head does the tail go? Center of the back of the skull (right on the bump)? Lower? Higher? You all do have bumps back there, right? ;)
What do you call the style where the hair is gathered and tied so the hair just hangs down in the back (like "Warf" from Star Trek TNG).
Finally... I know I can't make a regular "tail" because the sides and front aren't even close to long enough however my hair is quite dangly at the back (it is 3.5" at the middle of the bump). Is there any sort of reasonable "training tail" I can make with this?
Re: Tails: positioning and terms
Posted by Rokker on February 07, 2003 at 16:16:31: Previous Next
In Reply to: Tails: positioning and terms posted by Gollan on February 07, 2003 at 16:10:16:
: When you part your hair and make a tail... approximately where on the back of the head does the tail go? Center of the back of the skull (right on the bump)? Lower? Higher? You all do have bumps back there, right? ;)
Depends on where you want it. I usually brush all of my hair straight back, hold it together, and put a ponytailer on it at the point where all of the hair meets at its lowest point. But you can make it higher. Whatever you want.
Be advised that when it gets to be really long, it's harder to get a ponytailer on it because there's so much hair to pull through. But that's still years away for you.
: What do you call the style where the hair is gathered and tied so the hair just hangs down in the back (like "Warf" from Star Trek TNG).
I'm assuming you mean a "half tail". That's where you pull the hair on top and the sides into a tail near the base at the back of the top of the head but allow the rest of the hair to flow freely.
I'd include a pic of that if we could post pics.
: Finally... I know I can't make a regular "tail" because the sides and front aren't even close to long enough however my hair is quite dangly at the back (it is 3.5" at the middle of the bump). Is there any sort of reasonable "training tail" I can make with this?
I wouldn't think so. Not without looking like a dork anyway! :-)
Re: Tails: positioning and terms
Posted by Nathan on February 07, 2003 at 18:24:35: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Tails: positioning and terms posted by Rokker on February 07, 2003 at 16:16:31:
: : What do you call the style where the hair is gathered and tied so the hair just hangs down in the back (like "Warf" from Star Trek TNG).
: I'm assuming you mean a "half tail". That's where you pull the hair on top and the sides into a tail near the base at the back of the top of the head but allow the rest of the hair to flow freely.
I think he meant, having the hair band away from the head. IE, putting it in a "normal" tail, as you describe, but then pulling the band down the length of your hair a bit. I'm not sure what word you would use to describe it, however i think this look can be quite cool. I've only worn my hair like this once or twice, as unless you have your hand on the tail, pulling it a bit, it tends to "puff" up a little bit around my head...
The style you describe, i also have no word for :) I mainly see women with their hair like this though... The only time i've seen a guy with his hair like this, was a French footballer who plays here(in England). For along time, he had his very long blonde hair like this, and he always looked both masqueline, and pretty cool. I've worn my hair this way once, i think... The problem is, that the really short hairs that you have on the top of your hair, tend to stick up. The result is similar to a mullet... I guess there's a way around this, because i don't think i've ever seen a woman with this problem when wearing her hair like that, but i don't really like having to use gels/creems on my hair.
To answer the original question:
Ponytails on guys tend to look best low down, at the top of the neck. It's allright to have your hair high up if it's quite short(you can get more hair in that way), however if you do that when your hair is long, i find it looks a bit odd. Your hair will be held several inches away from your head, and i find it looks a bit feminine. I'm not criticisng any guy who wears his long hair like this, but i find it only really works on a guy, if you only have the hair for a short tail.
Ponytails tied really high up on your head(almost totally ontop), are totally different. Unless your hair is short, the hair will be very close to the back of your head, and so it looks different to other ponytail styles, once again. I don't think i've every seen any guys with this hair like this, but my sister and other women tend to use this one... I'm not decided on whether it really looks good on a guy, buti guess it would be useful if you wanted to get all of your hair away from your head, if it was really hot for example.
It's really personal preference. Whilst longhaired guys are hardly unique, it's quite rare to see men with their hair in different styles, other than basic low ponytail, plaited, or down. This means it's really easy to achieve a totally unique look, that will make you stand out. I've sometimes worn my hair in two ponytails. I guess this qualifies as "pigtails", however i have them pointing straight back. The look is quite different to a single tail, from the side or back, however it doesn't look paticuarly feminine. The scope for imaginative hairstyles is endless. You don't even have to come up with your own styles, since there are absoloutly loads of long hairstyles, that are only ever used by women, and never men. Longhair on men always looks good imho, and i don't think anyone should say that there is an absolute "best" way for people to wear it.
Re: Tails: positioning and terms
Posted by Markie on February 09, 2003 at 13:45:02: Previous Next
In Reply to: Re: Tails: positioning and terms posted by Nathan on February 07, 2003 at 18:24:35:
Surely the point of having long hair is the enjoyment of it. I have maintained my hair in a tail all my working life to the point where my colleagues have never seen it down. In many ways it goes with the job and so I treat my attitude towards hair the same as anyone in an office job. Smart, clean and non intrusive.
For the last few years I have adopted a mid back position, and if I were honest pushed slightly towards the higher (top) end. In this respect it is a true pony and moves about as I move and swing my head.
So I conform but IO also think that having long hair should be enjoyable. Any of you guys who wear your hair this way will undrstand what I mean. I don't have a name for it - pony tail is apt!
Re: Tails: positioning and terms
Posted by Victor on February 07, 2003 at 16:48:16: Previous Next
In Reply to: Tails: positioning and terms posted by Gollan on February 07, 2003 at 16:10:16:
: When you part your hair and make a tail... approximately where on the back of the head does the tail go? Center of the back of the skull (right on the bump)? Lower? Higher? You all do have bumps back there, right? ;)
: What do you call the style where the hair is gathered and tied so the hair just hangs down in the back (like "Warf" from Star Trek TNG).
Uh, are you a klingon?
i always put mine about in the center...
Posted by pvevan on February 07, 2003 at 18:40:15: Previous Next
In Reply to: Tails: positioning and terms posted by Gollan on February 07, 2003 at 16:10:16:
because any lower and the tail won't clear my shirt collar. I think if it is put too high it looks somewhat feminine(I'll catch heat for that). Not in like a woman sort of way, but in a young girl sorta way.
A lot has to do with how your hair lays. try several positions and see what works for you.
For a training tail, I would put a good amount of strong gel all through my hair, and comb straight back. I would then tie whatever I could get into a tail back. This gives a real slicked back wet appearance. It looks good, and real neat. if you don't want to use gel, try bryl cream or groom and clean, but i think they smell funny and feel greasy.
Evan
And if yer feelin' a little goofy....
Posted by CJ-new guy on February 13, 2003 at 14:19:14: Previous Next
In Reply to: i always put mine about in the center... posted by pvevan on February 07, 2003 at 18:40:15:
...in a sociological sort of way, slap that thing on the side of yer head a' la 80's and see what people say.
Hmmm.... Less coffee, definately less coffee....
: because any lower and the tail won't clear my shirt collar. I think if it is put too high it looks somewhat feminine(I'll catch heat for that). Not in like a woman sort of way, but in a young girl sorta way.
: A lot has to do with how your hair lays. try several positions and see what works for you.
: For a training tail, I would put a good amount of strong gel all through my hair, and comb straight back. I would then tie whatever I could get into a tail back. This gives a real slicked back wet appearance. It looks good, and real neat. if you don't want to use gel, try bryl cream or groom and clean, but i think they smell funny and feel greasy.
: Evan
Re: Tails: positioning and terms
Posted by John L. on February 08, 2003 at 04:47:42: Previous Next
In Reply to: Tails: positioning and terms posted by Gollan on February 07, 2003 at 16:10:16:
: The answers may be obvious when I get to the tail stage (in a year or so) but I'm curious...
: When you part your hair and make a tail... approximately where on the back of the head does the tail go? Center of the back of the skull (right on the bump)? Lower? Higher? You all do have bumps back there, right? ;)
You can pretty much put it anywhere you want. I tend to wear mine rather high. I've always preferred it that way. But, most guys wear theirs rather low.
: What do you call the style where the hair is gathered and tied so the hair just hangs down in the back (like "Warf" from Star Trek TNG).
: Finally... I know I can't make a regular "tail" because the sides and front aren't even close to long enough however my hair is quite dangly at the back (it is 3.5" at the middle of the bump). Is there any sort of reasonable "training tail" I can make with this?
You probably could. I'd be a stubby one, but that's ok.
-J