Top Hair Horrors Of All Time

Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
Posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26: Previous Next

Let's discuss bad hair ideas, shall we? The undercut is the most recent debate, but not the only hair fashion debate people have had over the years.

The top bad hair ideas of all time include....
May I have a drum roll please.....

How about that infamous, short-lived hairstyle they called the "quiff". That's the one where you had short, not quite buzzed hair all over and this longer patch right in front. Remember that? Oh yes, another hairstyle that never looked good in the first place yet was hugely popular. The best quiff, and the one to earn bonus points, was when they'd dye the quiff a different color than the rest of the hair. The little blonde quiff and the rest of the hair brown. A classic hair horror!

The world famous mohawk! Although a destinctive style, few people can pull off the mohawk without looking like a complete moron. There can be several variations to the mohawk, but the traditional long haired mohawk is without doubt the best way to wear this style. The mohawk is basically the king of all undercuts.

The Afro! The FRO! Big hair has never seen anything like it! The bigger the better with this style. I remember my African American classmates, and even some of the white boys sporting a killer fro. The pictures are always good for a laugh. Lenny Kravitz has a sort of fro going on today, and it works for him. Gotta give this style its props based on Lenny alone!

The skinhead! It became a very popular hairstyle in the late 90s. It's ugly on about 90% of all men. But some, like Vin Diesel, actually look good with it. Which gives this cut an edge over the undercut, since no one in history has looked even half-a$$ed decent with an undercut.

Perhaps no hairstyle in history has ever said "I'm old, but trying to be hip" quite like the comb-over! It's the hairstyle of choice among aging men, allowing them to cover up their baldness, even if the results are not very effective. Men with a comb-over will usually carry a comb at all times to allow for adjustments, especially on those windy days when the hair may be forcibly removed from its "cover position". Another drawback for this style is the simple act of bending over, as the hair will fall from its coveted and much desired "cover position". High maintenance, low effectiveness give this style two thumbs down and the #3 position of all time hair horrors!

The mullet! The very word MULLET has come to describe a haircut that is short on the top and long at the back. The mullet can still be seen everywhere in trailer parks and redneck bars. In the late 80s and throughout much of the 90s it worked its way into fashion magazines, rock stars, and into the public eye. No style was worse than the god awful mullet. But the style worked for one man, who to this day continues to have one, albeit much less "mulletish" than ten years ago. I'm speaking of course about "Doc"...oh yeah...Billy Ray Cyrus. His style today works for him. Because of that, the mullet can only attain the #2 spot.

Which leads us all to....

The number one all time bad hair idea of all time! It can only go to one style. The undercut creates a very noticeable mullet-like effect which for some strange reason is considered by some to be really cool. Made popular by wrestlers, this cut actually looks quite ridiculous. But no worry, it provides many of us with a good chuckle and the inner peace of knowing that we are at least smarter than some people out there! It has replaced the mullet as the hairstyle of choice among trailer park residents and RASSLIN fans! Because no one can attain an even reasonably decent look with it, the undercut comes in at #1 on the Hair Horror Of All Time Awards!

Why oh why must people make themselves look so silly? Why oh why, I ask!

I would mention Kobain hair, but it was never really a style. It was just the result of self hair cutting and lack of washing or even brushing/ combing. It can't be called a "style" since there was no styling involved.

Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
Posted by SixStringThing on February 19, 2003 at 22:16:47: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
lol your going to start having nightmares about undercuts. But seriously I must contribute to this. I knew a young guy (around 16) who purposely gave himself a male pattern baldness/horse-shoe type haircut.... and he was very happy afterwards. He actually kept the style for a few months....
- The definition of a bad haircut is.... ?
  Posted by Mark on February 20, 2003 at 15:08:22: Previous Next
  In Reply to: Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by SixStringThing on February 19, 2003 at 22:16:47:
  I have read most of the post related to what Rokker said about certain bad styles. My question is, how do we actually define what is a bad style anyway? What might be good to one person won't necessarily be seen as good to someone else. It certainly would be very boring if we were all going to be the same with our longhair styles. It is a little like sitting down and listening to a piece of music. One person may decide that it is a load of rubbish, while for someone else it might be their favourite record of all time.
  I personally do think that the best long hair is that which is fully long without any fancy tricks, but this does not mean that wearers of other types of style will think this. A good example in relation to my own hair is that I have seen in some of the posts here, that some people dislike hair that is straighter at the top with a wavy bit at the bottom. I happen to have this exact type of hair and really like it this way. So, what I think looks cool isn't necessarily true for everyone - and why should it be? It's my choice, not anybody else's.
  I guess the moral of this story is that we all see things differently and it is extremely difficult to actually quantify something that is good or bad.
Re: Top Post Horrors Of All Time
Posted by stinKfoot on February 19, 2003 at 22:19:20: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
your positive & supportive attitude is an inspiration to us all. i sure know that the undercut wearing participants of this forum are especially appreciative of your thoughtful words. your cool and level headed posts inject such energy here- i'm awestruck. your superior taste and aesthetic sense are urgently needed- i have a friend who needs a new look... here's a picture- what do you suggest?
Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
Posted by MC on February 19, 2003 at 22:20:48: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
Oh you can bet when/if I start losing my hair (and I really, really hope I never do, have a long time to think about that yet anyway), I'm gonna have a REALLY BAD, FLAGRANT comb-over!! yeah baby!!!
Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
Posted by Joe on February 19, 2003 at 22:28:06: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
ok, since I live in kind of a ghetto area, from my personal experience the worst hair is when white girls put "corn rows" in their hair. it looks allright on rap stars or basketball players, but on a white chick? come on...
If only....
Posted by Santiago on February 19, 2003 at 22:44:15: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
Rokker, congratulations I think you can win an Emmy, Golden Globe and even an Oscar to the cruelest villain this year. Seriously. I don't like undercuts, but Idon't attack people who like them.
This is supportive forum and you should have been banned since your 2nd attack on hair supplements. Really.. what do you want...? Maybe to feel better by attacking others. I hope you start balding at age 30 and that's something I wouldn't wish for anyone.
I had an afro and friends had afros and they rock! its a very honorable way to tame curly hair during the awckward stage!
If only I didn't love my hair so much, I'd shave it off to be less like you!
Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
Posted by MG on February 20, 2003 at 00:19:28: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
God, it must be comforting to know you are so superior to everybody
else in the world! Kinda puts you right up there with Hitler and
Sadam Hussien. Actually its really sad to know that a fellow long hair
is so narrow minded, intolerant and bigoted. This, along with the
typical druggie scum bag image is what gives the rest of us a bad
name.
- Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
  Posted by juliano on February 28, 2003 at 07:56:01: Previous Next
  In Reply to: Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by MG on February 20, 2003 at 00:19:28:
  : God, it must be comforting to know you are so superior to everybody
  : else in the world! Kinda puts you right up there with Hitler and
  : Sadam Hussien. Actually its really sad to know that a fellow long hair
  : is so narrow minded, intolerant and bigoted. This, along with the
  : typical druggie scum bag image is what gives the rest of us a bad
  : name.
  god will help u win the war
  and i m sure u can run them back to their country
  thats what i like about saddam Hussien kicking people in their ass and tell them to go bach to their stupid country
  juliano
I wouldn't knock any long hairstyles
Posted by Gollan on February 20, 2003 at 01:06:23: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
It is interesting to see your list of "bad hair ideas" but it is unfortunate that you included some long hairstyles such as the 'fro and the undercut. Even the Mohawk could be considered a long hairstyle. The fact is that "long hair" has a lot of different aspects and interpretations. I have some definite ideas of what I want for myself but I would still like to see and discuss as many different long hairstyles as possible. And in order for that to happen the "Men's Long Hair Hyperboard" really has to be a friendly place for *all* longhaired (or potential longhaird) men (and I guess women).
- Re: I wouldn't knock any long hairstyles
  Posted by Nathan on February 20, 2003 at 08:45:38: Previous Next
  In Reply to: I wouldn't knock any long hairstyles posted by Gollan on February 20, 2003 at 01:06:23:
  Well, this is a discussion :-) It's ludicrous to like a style, just because it involves long hair. If a hair-style looks stupid, then it's as much an obligation, as it is a right(almost) to voice one's opinion on it. Rokker is hardly subtle when stating his opinions on hair styles, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
  I think everyone here who's just posted an anit-Rokker responce, are missing the point... I believe the post was just making some light-hearted criticisms of various styles. Certainly, i laughed a couple of times whilst reading it :)
  I don't think the forum is meant just for telling people how good their hair is. Discussion on the best way to wear one's hair, is a most valid topic, imho. If anyone has one of the hairstyles that Rokker is having ago at, then i hardly think they're going to be seriously hurt by hearing negative opinions on it.
  - the point?
    Posted by stinKfoot on February 20, 2003 at 09:39:59: Previous Next
    In Reply to: Re: I wouldn't knock any long hairstyles posted by Nathan on February 20, 2003 at 08:45:38:
    voicing ones opinion about a hairstyle is one thing. openly ridiculing someone wearing the style is quite another.
    allow me to copy and paste an excerpt from the original post:
    , this cut actually looks quite ridiculous. But no worry, it provides many of us with a good chuckle and the inner peace of knowing that we are at least smarter than some people out there!
    perhaps it is you who miss the point of being supportive here. no, we DONT have to like every long style there is out there but surely there's a way of expressing ones distaste of the style without openly ridiculing its wearers. surely you dont actually believe that a post like roukkeur's is going to open the eyes of an undercut (or mullet) wearers as to the 'error' of their ways... the only possible effect his words can have is to divide the people here... even drive some away. in my opinion it's no better than some of the posts that have been deleted... but we've seen this type of crap before and it is tolerated and i must assume condoned here.
    perhaps it's time for someone else to set up a real support board and leave this forum to the wolves.
  - Re: ding
    Posted by Hair Religion on March 06, 2003 at 23:45:54: Previous Next
    In Reply to: Re: I wouldn't knock any long hairstyles posted by Nathan on February 20, 2003 at 08:45:38:
    Well put Nathan. There are some overly sensitive people here ready to pop if what you type doesn't sound like it came from lolipop land and for some reason they seem to tend to be the younger ones.
    I hope that their sensitivity doesn't get in the way of their hoped-for hair growth as they encounter negative views of their hair along the way.
    - Hair Religion
does the AWKWARD Phase count?
Posted by LucksKind on February 20, 2003 at 08:54:57: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:

I've had many 'styles' throughout the years, but NONE
could compare with the awkward stage I HAD to endure and go through.
I was a 'style' with NO style...
and I at first I became THE GREAT DANDELION...a lion that wouldn't be TAMED!
THEN IT WENT DOWNHILL FROM THERE...
Shouls have been lost somewhere in the deep woods for a year or something.
GoD SPEED to all those enduring the Awkward Phase...
and Good Luck for the future.
One Reply To Cover It All
Posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 10:24:07: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
Six String said: I knew a young guy (around 16) who purposely gave himself a male pattern baldness/horse-shoe type haircut.... and he was very happy afterwards. He actually kept the style for a few months....
There are guys on the buzz board who have openly discussed this. Hey, whatever floats your boat. I really don't care what buzz cut/ short cut guys do with their hair.
Stinkfoot said: your positive & supportive attitude is an inspiration to us all. i sure know that the undercut wearing participants of this forum are especially appreciative of your thoughtful words.
This particular post was more tongue-in-cheek and meant as humor. Zoomed right over your head, did it?
As for the undercut crowd, it's their god awful appearance that's a poor representation of longhairs in general. I'm a longhair. I've had long hair since 1976, and really long since 1977. I never cut my hair just to get a job. I never did fad cuts like the mullet or the undercut. To me, what gives longhairs a bad name is the stupid looking, trendy cuts. Another drawback is those who grow for awhile, then cut. Or those who cut to please someone else. That's why those of us who are true longhairs inside, who are real longhairs, have to listen to "it's a phase", "it's not normal", "my son had the sense to cut his hair", etc.
Joe said: ok, since I live in kind of a ghetto area, from my personal experience the worst hair is when white girls put "corn rows" in their hair. it looks allright on rap stars or basketball players, but on a white chick? come on...
I agree. Cornrows look really cool on African Americans, but they just don't work on white people. Just like the fro back in the 70s. It just didn't work on white guys.
Santiago said so much! Blow by blow reply!
"Rokker, congratulations I think you can win an Emmy, Golden Globe and even an Oscar to the cruelest villain this year. Seriously. I don't like undercuts, but Idon't attack people who like them."
I'm not a villian. I'm a longhair who really wants us all to get respect from everyone, long hair, short hair, no hair, whomever. If we all act respectfully toward those whom we deal with and interact with, and if we avoid trendy, goofy styles like the undercut, and if we keep it clean and nice looking...we can go a long way toward being less discriminated against. Nothing tells people to view you negatively more than a fad cut like an undercut or mullet!
"This is supportive forum and you should have been banned since your 2nd attack on hair supplements. Really.. what do you want...? Maybe to feel better by attacking others. I hope you start balding at age 30 and that's something I wouldn't wish for anyone."
I didn't "attack" supplements, I set the record straight. If anyone comes here and encourages people to WASTE their hard-earned money on junk that doesn't work, you can bet that I'll be here to set the record straight. I INFORMED, I didn't attack! Big difference, jeffe!
People come here for advice, and to learn. Telling them to waste their money on junk that has been scientifically proven to be garbage is inappropriate at best, and fraudulent and misleading. This isn't opinion, it's scientifically proven fact. Your hair will grow just as fast taking a Tic Tac every day as it will taking an expensive, so-called hair supplement. That's a fact...one proven by science.
Oh, and I'm 40 and not balding. Sorry to disappoint you there!
"I had an afro and friends had afros and they rock! its a very honorable way to tame curly hair during the awckward stage!"
As I mentioned, the fro works for some people. Lenny Kravitz looks cool with it. And my post was more humorous than serious, dude. Lighten up!

"If only I didn't love my hair so much, I'd shave it off to be less like you!"
You aren't much like me to start with. Don't flatter yourself!
MG said: God, it must be comforting to know you are so superior to everybody
else in the world! Kinda puts you right up there with Hitler and
Sadam Hussien. Actually its really sad to know that a fellow long hair
is so narrow minded, intolerant and bigoted. This, along with the
typical druggie scum bag image is what gives the rest of us a bad
name.
Wow! Throwing me into the Hussein and Hitler crowd. Amazing! I didn't know they were longhairs! :-)
I'm not narrow-minded or intolerant or bigoted. What I am is a longhair who has seen us discriminated against and have been the victim of that discrimination! And having people like you who go out and get undercuts, mullets, and any other ridiculous style is a poor reflection on us all. Either have it long or don't. A mullet is long, but short. An undercut is long, but a buzz cut. I just don't understand that when people can look back and see the styles I mentioned, that they can't recognize that some styles are timeless and aren't fads or something hideous looking. The undercut makes all longhairs look bad, and like other fad styles it'll go away. Some of us are smart enough to know better than to get one, some aren't.
I'll bet you had a quiff before growing your hair out. Admit it! You even had the bonus version, didn't you?
Gollan said: And in order for that to happen the "Men's Long Hair Hyperboard" really has to be a friendly place for *all* longhaired (or potential longhaird) men....
To me, personally, I really don't care what anyone does with their hair. You want pink and yellow stripes with one side shaved and the other long....go for it. It's your hair. I really don't care.
However, that being said...as I mentioned earlier...some styles make a reflection on all of us as a whole. Those include the mullet and the undercut. Those two, more than anything else, paint all of us longhairs in a poor light. It makes us all look bad.
People need to either be true longhairs or just keep it short. It's that simple. Either grow it, learn how to manage it and make it look great, or just stick with short hair. I have for a very long time now given many people a wealth of advice and encouragement on this board. I have written letters to employers to explain why long hair is so important and meaningful to true longhairs like me. I'll be glad to share one that I sent to the employer of an office supply store and they accepted it and their employee and allowed him to keep his hair.
In short, a true longhair keeps his hair. He doesn't cut it to please others. He doesn't get an undercut or some fad style. Keep it long, keep it clean, be friendly and courteous in public, and represent a nice image of us...these are things a true longhair does.
Six String, MG, and others aren't what I call true longhairs. Their hair is disposable. My hair is "me". You may as well be cutting off my right hand if you cut my hair!
- I couldn't agree more
  Posted by Earnie on February 20, 2003 at 10:44:55: Previous Next
  In Reply to: One Reply To Cover It All posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 10:24:07:
  Excellent post. And I loved the tounge in cheek post too.
  I agree with you 100 %.
  Dorky looking hair styles give the human race a bad name, not just long hairs.
  Long hair means LONG HAIR. Not shaved sides or bowl cuts.
  A true longhair does not wear trendy cuts.
  A true longhair lets his hair grow without doing silly things to it to make it look dorky.
  Long Live Long Hair !!
- Reply To Cover It All..well said...
  Posted by LucksKind on February 20, 2003 at 11:05:31: Previous Next
  In Reply to: One Reply To Cover It All posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 10:24:07:
  
  Rokker!
- yep-- that about covers it
  Posted by stinKfoot on February 20, 2003 at 11:25:12: Previous Next
  In Reply to: One Reply To Cover It All posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 10:24:07:
  
  : Stinkfoot said: your positive & supportive attitude is an inspiration to us all. i sure know that the undercut wearing participants of this forum are especially appreciative of your thoughtful words.
  : This particular post was more tongue-in-cheek and meant as humor. Zoomed right over your head, did it?
  perhaps you meant it as humor but it is in line with much of what you've posted. you have verbally assaulted people because of their choice of hairstyle. not just in your tongue-in-cheek post that you've insinuated i lack the capacity to comprehend (another self-important jab as to your intellectual superiority) maybe you didnt really mean to ridicule some of the people here in this post but because of your repeated assaults on the wearers of certain styles (mullet, undercut, etc.) the tongue-in-cheekness of your post will be lost on anyone accustomed to your usual arrogance- perhaps that zoomed over your head (hard as it is to believe something could clear anything so swelled).
  : You aren't much like me to start with. Don't flatter yourself!
  if that doesn't say it all i don't know what does you're wasting your time here... you need to set up a self-admiration society.
  : I'm not narrow-minded or intolerant or bigoted. What I am is a longhair who has seen us discriminated against and have been the victim of that discrimination! And having people like you who go out and get undercuts, mullets, and any other ridiculous style is a poor reflection on us all. Either have it long or don't. A mullet is long, but short. An undercut is long, but a buzz cut. I just don't understand that when people can look back and see the styles I mentioned, that they can't recognize that some styles are timeless and aren't fads or something hideous looking. The undercut makes all longhairs look bad, and like other fad styles it'll go away. Some of us are smart enough to know better than to get one, some aren't.
  you open with "I'm not narrow-minded or intolerant or bigoted" then go a long way toward disproving that in your post. you ridicule not only certain hairstyles but also the wearers. "either have it or dont..." isnt all that far off from being told to "get a h@ircut" by a buzkut n@zi... you say you've experienced hair discrimination but you clearly demonstrate that you've learned nothing from it.
  : To me, personally, I really don't care what anyone does with their hair. You want pink and yellow stripes with one side shaved and the other long....go for it. It's your hair. I really don't care.
  then don't go beating down (attacking the intelligence) of people because they wear a style you dislike. your attitude drives people away.
  : However, that being said...as I mentioned earlier...some styles make a reflection on all of us as a whole. Those include the mullet and the undercut. Those two, more than anything else, paint all of us longhairs in a poor light. It makes us all look bad.
  yes... and your intolerance (yes, in my opinion you are intolerant) reflects badly on this forum as well. it's not your aesthetic sense- just your chosen way of delivering it- that brings this across. i'm amazed that someone with the brains you claim to have can miss this. i wonder who you are targeting when you assail the intelligence of undercut wearers... do you really expect that your words are going to register as 'truth'? your demeanor borders on 'bully'. no enlightened person is going to give your words much weight. i guess that went over your head too. amazing.
  : People need to either be true longhairs or just keep it short. It's that simple. Either grow it, learn how to manage it and make it look great, or just stick with short hair. I have for a very long time now given many people a wealth of advice and encouragement on this board.
  that's tolerant? please enlighten me because it zoomed right over my head.
  : In short, a true longhair keeps his hair. He doesn't cut it to please others. He doesn't get an undercut or some fad style. Keep it long, keep it clean, be friendly and courteous in public, and represent a nice image of us...these are things a true longhair does.
  change a couple of words and that doesn't differ from the attitude we face from those intolerant of so-called 'real' longhairs
  : Six String, MG, and others aren't what I call true longhairs. Their hair is disposable. My hair is "me". You may as well be cutting off my right hand if you cut my hair!
  i feel your attitude is disposable. how can you say that you're not intolerant then dismiss certain individuals' hair as 'disposable'? you cut down other people and we should pay attention to your words as incontrovertable truth? perhaps i should feel oh-so-honored that a luminary such as yourself would validate me by assailing my inability to comprehend your sarcasm- but i don't. i would expect many people might have difficulty differentiating between that and what you usually post.
  regardless i do hope you have a sparkling day
  - Re: yep-- that about covers it
    Posted by StanleyBey on February 20, 2003 at 13:19:25: Previous Next
    In Reply to: yep-- that about covers it posted by stinKfoot on February 20, 2003 at 11:25:12:
    I agree. Rokker's arrogance is just too much. He repeatedly has these arguments with other board members because a lot of people just can't stand him.
    - Re: yep-- that about covers it
      Posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 13:30:26: Previous Next
      In Reply to: Re: yep-- that about covers it posted by StanleyBey on February 20, 2003 at 13:19:25:
      : I agree. Rokker's arrogance is just too much. He repeatedly has these arguments with other board members because a lot of people just can't stand him.
      I don't consider the same three or four people to be "a lot".
      Maybe I am a bit arrogant. However, I'm informed, knowledgeable, and have a ton of experience my detractors don't have.
      Also, I speak only the truth. Some people, as Jack Nicholson said in "A Few Good Men"....can't handle the truth!
      Either be a longhair or don't. That's all I'm saying. A true, genuine longhair isn't someone like Six String who gets an undercut then says he'll probably cut it. A true longhair is someone whose hair is a part of their identity, not just something that they may keep, may fashion with a funky cut of some kind, whatever.
      - Re: yep-- that about covers it
        Posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 14:28:39: Previous Next
        In Reply to: Re: yep-- that about covers it posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 13:30:26:
        : Either be a longhair or don't. That's all I'm saying. A true, genuine longhair isn't someone like Six String who gets an undercut then says he'll probably cut it. A true longhair is someone whose hair is a part of their identity, not just something that they may keep, may fashion with a funky cut of some kind, whatever.
        
        Wow, i'm really trying to ignore you and even be friends with you but it's so hard when you say something about me on every other post. And what is this about a "true longhair"???? I am NOT a "longhair" I am a human being, I don't need to be classified by any stupid labels. I don't care what anyone says, calling people "true longhairs" is just too obsessive for me. And seriously, you have an obsession, I don't like buzzcuts but I'm not going to make a post about it every week. Life is short so chill out and stop thinking about this, spend some time with a loved one, participate in an activity you enjoy... do something! If a family member was dying or something along those lines I could understand you would be worried... but a grown man worrying over hairstyles?!?!?!? That's pathetic!
        
        Re: time to think before typing
        Posted by Hair Religion on February 27, 2003 at 05:26:27: Previous Next
        In Reply to: Re: yep-- that about covers it posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 14:28:39:
        This is a longhair board. If you think that a longhair here has a problem because he loves long hair or is obsessed by long hair or is past a certain age (you mentioned 40 as well as "a grown man") and cares about long hair then I'd have to say that you are in the wrong place. Those are not valid criticisms here.
        I don't usually make an issue of a persons age but you said that you were 17 and it's really showing.
        
        Hair Religion
  - Re: corn rows on white girls!
    Posted by Barry on February 20, 2003 at 13:45:55: Previous Next
    In Reply to: yep-- that about covers it posted by stinKfoot on February 20, 2003 at 11:25:12:
    Personally, I think corn rows look OK on white girls if they have dark hair - more a matter of hair colour than skin colour!
    Barry
    - Re: corn rows on white girls!
      Posted by Bon on February 20, 2003 at 21:31:29: Previous Next
      In Reply to: Re: corn rows on white girls! posted by Barry on February 20, 2003 at 13:45:55:
      I can't remember who it was, but on one of the recent award shows a white celebrity had cornrows. They looked ok, but I would rather have seen her hair down. And dont cornrows damage your hair? You can't take them out, can you?
      - Re: corn rows on white girls!
        Posted by Skarred Orange on February 21, 2003 at 04:22:33: Previous Next
        In Reply to: Re: corn rows on white girls! posted by Bon on February 20, 2003 at 21:31:29:
        : I can't remember who it was, but on one of the recent award shows a white celebrity had cornrows. They looked ok, but I would rather have seen her hair down. And dont cornrows damage your hair? You can't take them out, can you?
        Yes you can, all you gotta do is unravel the hair.
- Re: One Reply To Cover It All
  Posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 14:53:39: Previous Next
  In Reply to: One Reply To Cover It All posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 10:24:07:
  To me, what gives longhairs a bad name is the stupid looking, trendy cuts. Another drawback is those who grow for awhile, then cut. Or those who cut to please someone else. That's why those of us who are true longhairs inside, who are real longhairs, have to listen to "it's a phase", "it's not normal", "my son had the sense to cut his hair", etc.
  You act like it's a sin to have medium lenght hair. So what if someone grows it and changed their mind? That affects you?
  : I'm not a villian. I'm a longhair who really wants us all to get respect from everyone, long hair, short hair, no hair, whomever. If we all act respectfully toward those whom we deal with and interact with, and if we avoid trendy, goofy styles like the undercut, and if we keep it clean and nice looking...we can go a long way toward being less discriminated against. Nothing tells people to view you negatively more than a fad cut like an undercut or mullet!
  Not true, you don't have an undercut/mullet and I view you negatively b/c of the childish way in which you act.
  : Oh, and I'm 40 and not balding. Sorry to disappoint you there!
  YOUR 40?!?!?!? You've been on this earth for 40 years and you are this concerned over HAIR?!?!? Sorry but by 40 most people have learned alot in life and would not get so bent out of shape over a hairstyle.
  : You aren't much like me to start with. Don't flatter yourself!
  Flatter yourself??? lol this one really made me laugh. You are a 40 year old man who sits here whining on a message board about peoples hairstyles! Hmm yea, hopefully I'll be just like you at 40! I don't like being rude to people older than me but you act like a child so I don't mind.
  : I'm not narrow-minded or intolerant or bigoted. What I am is a longhair who has seen us discriminated against and have been the victim of that discrimination! And having people like you who go out and get undercuts, mullets, and any other ridiculous style is a poor reflection on us all. Either have it long or don't. A mullet is long, but short. An undercut is long, but a buzz cut. I just don't understand that when people can look back and see the styles I mentioned, that they can't recognize that some styles are timeless and aren't fads or something hideous looking. The undercut makes all longhairs look bad, and like other fad styles it'll go away. Some of us are smart enough to know better than to get one, some aren't.
  Could you imagine everyone you love dying? I hope it never happens but it seems as if something of that nature would be the only think to get you back on track in the real world. Believe it or not there are actually things in life more important than not looking trendy.
  
  To me, personally, I really don't care what anyone does with their hair. You want pink and yellow stripes with one side shaved and the other long....go for it. It's your hair. I really don't care.
  Then why do you make so many posts about it?
  : However, that being said...as I mentioned earlier...some styles make a reflection on all of us as a whole. Those include the mullet and the undercut. Those two, more than anything else, paint all of us longhairs in a poor light. It makes us all look bad.
  So because I, a 17 year old kid in San Antonio, have an undercut... this makes YOU look bad? If I grew all my hair out would YOU be more attractive? Would you make more money?
  
  : Six String, MG, and others aren't what I call true longhairs. Their hair is disposable. My hair is "me". You may as well be cutting off my right hand if you cut my hair!
  I won't speak for MG b/c he may feel differently but I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't care about being a "true longhair!", I'm just a human being! Labels are so stupid, you see teens doing it (by claiming that this guy is a "goth" and this guy is a "skater" and this other one is a "prep" or whatever) but no mature adult labels people.
  - Re: One Reply To Cover It All
    Posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 15:45:59: Previous Next
    In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 14:53:39:
    : You act like it's a sin to have medium lenght hair. So what if someone grows it and changed their mind? That affects you?
    What it does is add to the perception some people have that it's "just hair". It makes them see credibility in their claim that hair just doesn't matter. I'll expand on that further later in this reply.
    : Not true, you don't have an undercut/mullet and I view you negatively b/c of the childish way in which you act.
    My point is that there are some of us here, like me, who have a cultural tie to long hair. I'm a Cherokee, and my long is a symbol of my heritage. I won't bother trying to explain. I'll leave it to you do do some research and try to gain an understanding. For us, it's not a style or a phase....long hair has meaning!
    : YOUR 40?!?!?!? You've been on this earth for 40 years and you are this concerned over HAIR?!?!? Sorry but by 40 most people have learned alot in life and would not get so bent out of shape over a hairstyle.
    Again, it isn't hair, but a cultural thing. If people who were longhairs inside, those who identify themselves by long hair were the only ones with long hair, things would be easier for us. But it's hard for conformists and people who follow trends in hair fashion to understand that long hair for many of us isn't just a minor thing.
    When posers like you grow and cut, or grow and get a silly looking style, it does indeed create problems for those of us who are longhairs not "just because" or because it's a "mid-life crisis" or to be "cool". So when people see an undercut or mullet, they lump it into the "oh, another punk-azz long hairde freak".
    If the only people with longhair always kept it long, kept it clean, kept it groomed, and avoided the fad cuts, we'd all be a lot further along in being accepted for who we are.
    : Flatter yourself??? lol this one really made me laugh. You are a 40 year old man who sits here whining on a message board about peoples hairstyles! Hmm yea, hopefully I'll be just like you at 40! I don't like being rude to people older than me but you act like a child so I don't mind.
    I don't whine. I educate. I let people know the truth about things. I try to help people and encourage them to keep their hair.
    I post because I have a strong belief in my right to have my hair long. People like you have a negative impact and undermine my ability to communicate to other groups that long hair can be legitimate. I'm a strong activist. I don't just spend time here. I write to law makers, I write to employers, I help many people in real life face discrimination and fight back. This board is the least of my worries when it comes to hair.
    : Could you imagine everyone you love dying? I hope it never happens but it seems as if something of that nature would be the only think to get you back on track in the real world. Believe it or not there are actually things in life more important than not looking trendy.
    I don't care about being trendy. I never have. If I did, I'd have something other than long hair. At the very least, I'd have an undercut, since it seems to be the latest trend. I don't pay attention to most trends and never follow any of them. There is nothing trendy about me at all, dude.
    : Then why do you make so many posts about it?
    If some kid with a buzz gets a lightning bolt shaved in it, it doesn't affect me. If some guy gets a mohawk, it doesn't affect me. Those are styles that aren't an impact on the longhair community as a whole. However, mullets and undercuts do make an impression on people and make long hair less respectable and more seen as a fashion statement.
    : So because I, a 17 year old kid in San Antonio, have an undercut... this makes YOU look bad? If I grew all my hair out would YOU be more attractive? Would you make more money?
    It doesn't make me look bad on a personal level, but it's a poor reflection on people with long hair. You don't have a cultural bind to long hair. You don't have the family background and history I do. You see it as just hair...whereas for me it's much more important than that. As I said earlier, do some research on the background of American Indians (specifically Cherokees, as I'm Cherokee) and then, and only then make a judgement.
    : I won't speak for MG b/c he may feel differently but I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't care about being a "true longhair!", I'm just a human being! Labels are so stupid, you see teens doing it (by claiming that this guy is a "goth" and this guy is a "skater" and this other one is a "prep" or whatever) but no mature adult labels people.
    Adults label people every day. I'm not saying it's right, but it's a fact.
    It's obvious you don't care about being a true longhair. You aren't one, and likely won't be one. People like you should just keep it short. But again...it's your hair, so do whatever you want. BUT...if you come here and encourage people to get an undercut, you can believe that I'll send out a note telling them not to and explain why. Just as if someone advises another person to spend a lot of money on a worthless product, I'll educate that person and show them it's a waste of money.
    Believe it or not, I'm really here to help people. I'm very adamant and sometimes harsh, but there's no room for beating around the bush when the truth must be told.
    - Re: One Reply To Cover It All
      Posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 17:39:42: Previous Next
      In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 15:45:59:
      : When posers like you grow and cut, or grow and get a silly looking style, it does indeed create problems for those of us who are longhairs not "just because" or because it's a "mid-life crisis" or to be "cool". So when people see an undercut or mullet, they lump it into the "oh, another punk-azz long hairde freak".
      I honestly don't believe that to be true. You love long hair and think about it more than the average person (which most on this board probably do) The average person doesn't even know what an undercut is, they either like long hair, don't like it, or don't care. Most people on the street see someone with long hair and don't even notice, if they do notice I promise you they aren't worried if it's an undercut or not. In the business world it is a bit more important, but again most people don't even know what an undercut is, if a boss or manager dislikes long hair, undercut or no undercut it's not going to matter. If he/she is ok with long hair, you could have a bunch of people running around all over the place with purple undercuts and piercing all over the place and you will still be hired, b/c it is you they are hiring not the others.
      : If the only people with longhair always kept it long, kept it clean, kept it groomed, and avoided the fad cuts, we'd all be a lot further along in being accepted for who we are.
      Once again I really doubt that. Long hair is not "in" right now, undercut or no undercut, mullets whatever, none of it is "in". It will be back eventually, then short hair will be back, the long etc. no need to force it. If it's not "in" society is going to have a tough time accepting it, even if everyone grows out their undercuts. As i said before most people don't have a clue what the word "undercut" means as far as hair. Ex. I drove my aunt to the hair salon about a year ago and there was a guy with a pretty big undercut. She pointed at him and said "hey look at that longhaired guy, you're going to look like that in about a year" (I was barely starting to grow my hair out at that time) See, she didn't notice the undercut she just saw long hair b/c like most people she's not very concerned about hair. The average person sees long hair and they don't notice if it's undercut or not they just know that the person has long hair.
      : : Could you imagine everyone you love dying? I hope it never happens but it seems as if something of that nature would be the only think to get you back on track in the real world. Believe it or not there are actually things in life more important than not looking trendy.
      : I don't care about being trendy. I never have. If I did, I'd have something other than long hair. At the very least, I'd have an undercut, since it seems to be the latest trend. I don't pay attention to most trends and never follow any of them. There is nothing trendy about me at all, dude.
      No no you read it wrong. I was saying that you seem like the type of person that is obsessed with NOT being trendy, and you just proved my point. It's just as bad to be obsessed with not being trendy as it is to be obsessed with being trendy.
      
      : It doesn't make me look bad on a personal level, but it's a poor reflection on people with long hair. You don't have a cultural bind to long hair. You don't have the family background and history I do. You see it as just hair...whereas for me it's much more important than that. As I said earlier, do some research on the background of American Indians (specifically Cherokees, as I'm Cherokee) and then, and only then make a judgement.
      Exactly, you have the family background, I don't! If I want to have an undercut I can and I don't wish to have you "educating" me about it.
      
      : Believe it or not, I'm really here to help people. I'm very adamant and sometimes harsh, but there's no room for beating around the bush when the truth must be told.
      But there's no truth to undercuts looking bad, it is an opinion, not a fact. I know plenty of people that think long hair on men looks stupid, I have an uncle who had long hair in High School and he sees his old yearbook and says he can't believe how stupid he looked back then! It's all opinion!
- Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW!
  Posted by SPEEDRACER on February 20, 2003 at 21:31:03: Previous Next
  In Reply to: One Reply To Cover It All posted by Rokker on February 20, 2003 at 10:24:07:
  I really do not know where to begin other than the fact that "opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one"...Rokker was just giving an opinion - and for those of you who were offended...please grow up!!! Hairstyles (fads) come and go with the seasons, and if you belong to this group then you are not a true long hair! I will be 35 this year and started growing my hair out at the age of 16/17. The most important thing about being a true long hair is presentation...you MUST present your hair as healthy & clean. Yes, I am talking directly to you that fit in the "kurt cobain" group...please do us all a favor and wash your hair, get a trim, and use a damn brush!
  Like Rokker, I do not care what you wish to do with your hair...because it is indeed your hair and nobody should ever tell you what to do with your own hair...whatever makes you happy is what you should do. However, having long hair and throwing that word discrimination into the mix is where I get bothered. I consider myself a very clean long hair - one who takes the time needed to take care of my hair...good hygiene. What bothers me is the fact that no matter how good my hygiene, no matter how good the clothes I wear, no matter how good my manners, etc. for some unknown reason I sadly get lumped into the same category as all you "kurt cobainers" for the simple fact that I have long hair. I have worked really hard to earn respect from others - and have fortunately done just that - but it sure would make life so much easier for me if I didn't feel the need to have to work so damn hard for respect.
  Just as I said earlier...do with your hair what you wish...but just keep in mind how selfish you are with your hair by the way that it's not just "your" life that gets affected by your hair...but you affect "my" life as well. Whether you realize it or not...ALL of us long hairs are lumped into the same group so please help us ALL to get rid of this stereotype / discrimination trouble that we have all experienced and I beg you to wash your hair, go get a trim, and please invest in a damn brush!
  - Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW!
    Posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 22:04:58: Previous Next
    In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW! posted by SPEEDRACER on February 20, 2003 at 21:31:03:
    : I really do not know where to begin other than the fact that "opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one"...Rokker was just giving an opinion - and for those of you who were offended...please grow up!!! Hairstyles (fads) come and go with the seasons, and if you belong to this group then you are not a true long hair! I will be 35 this year and started growing my hair out at the age of 16/17. The most important thing about being a true long hair is presentation...you MUST present your hair as healthy & clean. Yes, I am talking directly to you that fit in the "kurt cobain" group...please do us all a favor and wash your hair, get a trim, and use a damn brush!
    Well what really offends me is that this guy keeps using me in his examples! And all because I have an undercut! I look healthy & clean, I workout/am in good shape, wash my hair every other day and always detangle it (it's naturally frizzy, nothing I can do there) and try to get it as neat as possible, I wear clean and neat clothing and make sure it always matches and that the colors compliment my skin tone, I am very well mannered, I get very good grades in school, I always offer others help when I can, I don't do drugs ... but I have an undercut so none of that matters to him.
    - SIXSTRING
      Posted by SPEEDRACER on February 21, 2003 at 08:04:51: Previous Next
      In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW! posted by SixStringThing on February 20, 2003 at 22:04:58:
      : Well what really offends me is that this guy keeps using me in his examples! And all because I have an undercut! I look healthy & clean, I workout/am in good shape, wash my hair every other day and always detangle it (it's naturally frizzy, nothing I can do there) and try to get it as neat as possible, I wear clean and neat clothing and make sure it always matches and that the colors compliment my skin tone, I am very well mannered, I get very good grades in school, I always offer others help when I can, I don't do drugs ... but I have an undercut so none of that matters to him.
      You sound like an outstanding person for someone who is only 17. Keep up the good work and take care of yourself & your hair. Just as in the real world - take from this board things that are useful to you to help you grow and simply let everything else roll off your back. Again, you sound like a very mature 17 year old.
  - Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW!
    Posted by MG on February 21, 2003 at 01:04:41: Previous Next
    In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW! posted by SPEEDRACER on February 20, 2003 at 21:31:03:
    : I really do not know where to begin other than the fact that "opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one"...Rokker was just giving an opinion - and for those of you who were offended...please grow up!!! Hairstyles (fads) come and go with the seasons, and if you belong to this group then you are not a true long hair! I will be 35 this year and started growing my hair out at the age of 16/17. The most important thing about being a true long hair is presentation...you MUST present your hair as healthy & clean. Yes, I am talking directly to you that fit in the "kurt cobain" group...please do us all a favor and wash your hair, get a trim, and use a damn brush!
    : Like Rokker, I do not care what you wish to do with your hair...because it is indeed your hair and nobody should ever tell you what to do with your own hair...whatever makes you happy is what you should do. However, having long hair and throwing that word discrimination into the mix is where I get bothered. I consider myself a very clean long hair - one who takes the time needed to take care of my hair...good hygiene. What bothers me is the fact that no matter how good my hygiene, no matter how good the clothes I wear, no matter how good my manners, etc. for some unknown reason I sadly get lumped into the same category as all you "kurt cobainers" for the simple fact that I have long hair. I have worked really hard to earn respect from others - and have fortunately done just that - but it sure would make life so much easier for me if I didn't feel the need to have to work so damn hard for respect.
    : Just as I said earlier...do with your hair what you wish...but just keep in mind how selfish you are with your hair by the way that it's not just "your" life that gets affected by your hair...but you affect "my" life as well. Whether you realize it or not...ALL of us long hairs are lumped into the same group so please help us ALL to get rid of this stereotype / discrimination trouble that we have all experienced and I beg you to wash your hair, go get a trim, and please invest in a damn brush!
    I think that you and rokker blaming everybody else for your bad image
    is kind of lame. If you have self confidence and are as careful in
    your appearance as you say you are, what anybody else does should not
    matter. Its all a matter of self confidence and you should not care
    what other people think.
    - Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW!
      Posted by SPEEDRACER on February 21, 2003 at 08:20:00: Previous Next
      In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW! posted by MG on February 21, 2003 at 01:04:41:
      : I think that you and rokker blaming everybody else for your bad image
      : is kind of lame. If you have self confidence and are as careful in
      : your appearance as you say you are, what anybody else does should not
      : matter. Its all a matter of self confidence and you should not care
      : what other people think.
      To correct you - I do not have a bad image...on the contrary, I have a very good/positive image...with a great wife, our first baby on the way, excellent group of family & friends all around me, etc. If I sounded as if I was trying to place "long hair" blame on anyone, then I do indeed apologize for coming across that way. Your point has been well taken and I totally agree with your statement, "It's all a matter of self confidence and you should not care what other people think." Hair styles do not bother me...we all have went through more than one I am sure of that...my only complaint is cleanliness. I don't mind your hair style not one bit, but whatever your style is that you choose - then please, please, please have excellent hygiene...you look like a loser & you'll be treated like a loser. All of us long hairs are grouped together - whether we like it or not - and the "kurt cobainers" out there drag us down...and this is exactly how "their image" affects "my image".
      - Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW!
        Posted by MG on February 22, 2003 at 01:55:03: Previous Next
        In Reply to: Re: One Reply To Cover It All - WOW! posted by SPEEDRACER on February 21, 2003 at 08:20:00:
        : : I think that you and rokker blaming everybody else for your bad image
        : : is kind of lame. If you have self confidence and are as careful in
        : : your appearance as you say you are, what anybody else does should not
        : : matter. Its all a matter of self confidence and you should not care
        : : what other people think.
        : To correct you - I do not have a bad image...on the contrary, I have a very good/positive image...with a great wife, our first baby on the way, excellent group of family & friends all around me, etc. If I sounded as if I was trying to place "long hair" blame on anyone, then I do indeed apologize for coming across that way. Your point has been well taken and I totally agree with your statement, "It's all a matter of self confidence and you should not care what other people think." Hair styles do not bother me...we all have went through more than one I am sure of that...my only complaint is cleanliness. I don't mind your hair style not one bit, but whatever your style is that you choose - then please, please, please have excellent hygiene...you look like a loser & you'll be treated like a loser. All of us long hairs are grouped together - whether we like it or not - and the "kurt cobainers" out there drag us down...and this is exactly how "their image" affects "my image".
        Yes I agree with you on being clean. I don't like dirty, smelly
        greasy people either. And thank you for allowing other people to have
        their own hair styles. My main disagreement with rokker is really not
        about hair styles. I mean we all have our own likes and dislikes and
        usually here on this board there are discussions and sometimes we
        agree to disagree. It is the fact that when anybody disagrees with
        rokker he rants, screams and hurls insults at them. This imaturity
        in somebody 40 years old causes him to lose all credibility.
        Good luck with your future family.
Re: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time
Posted by Barry on February 20, 2003 at 13:48:30: Previous Next
In Reply to: Top Hair Horrors Of All Time posted by Rokker on February 19, 2003 at 21:28:26:
Some of the Beatle-style crash-helmet cuts from the very dawn of the long hair revival look comical now!
Cheers, Barry

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