Re: long hair in style
Posted by Me on October 21, 2001 at 23:18:01: Previous Next
In Reply to: long hair in style posted by Justin on October 21, 2001 at 22:59:38:
: Well, I just wanted to point this out: http://www.target.com/ (yaya, I know it's not exactly the most stylish place) but the model with long hair looks cool.
What guy with long hair? Went to the site, only saw someone with
short hair. Where did you see a long haired person?
Re: long hair in style
Posted by justin on October 22, 2001 at 00:02:21: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long hair in style posted by Me on October 21, 2001 at 23:18:01:
: : Well, I just wanted to point this out: http://www.target.com/ (yaya, I know it's not exactly the most stylish place) but the model with long hair looks cool.
: What guy with long hair? Went to the site, only saw someone with
: short hair. Where did you see a long haired person?Sorry, the guy with the LONGER hair.. should be on the left in the main page.. brown hair.. I hope you're not being sarcastic and saying that "long hair" is only hair that is past your shoulders or whatever. In my opinion long hair is anything past your ears, that society for the most part shuns. I personally dont like hair any longer than shoulder length on guys, just not interested in having that. But I hate the short haircuts that have been so dominant for so many years.. I cant wait untill short hair becuase unpopular again.
Justin
Here's the photo
Posted by AJ on October 22, 2001 at 14:51:24: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long hair in style posted by justin on October 22, 2001 at 00:02:21:
long?? hahahah
Posted by cryptic_reign on October 22, 2001 at 17:50:33: Previous NextIn Reply to: Here's the photo posted by AJ on October 22, 2001 at 14:51:24:
that guy has short hair! and i'm not being sarcastic either. and yes long hair = past sholders
Re: long?? hahahah
Posted by meatloaf on October 22, 2001 at 18:27:03: Previous NextIn Reply to: long?? hahahah posted by cryptic_reign on October 22, 2001 at 17:50:33:
: that guy has short hair! and i'm not being sarcastic either. and yes long hair = past sholders
If you ask the average person on the street they would say that the guy has long hair. when men's hair starts to hang and get pass ears people consider it long, bc the average male has short short hair. This board is for people interested in growing their hair longer than the usual buzz cut, and not everyone is aiming for hair that reaches their feet.
Re: long?? hahahah
Posted by Will on October 22, 2001 at 19:01:38: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long?? hahahah posted by meatloaf on October 22, 2001 at 18:27:03:
Would you guys settle for "medium?" BTW mine is slightly "longer" - just about like the female model (that's the one on the right)...only mine is white...
Re: long?? hahahah
Posted by PPR on October 27, 2001 at 03:32:17: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long?? hahahah posted by Will on October 22, 2001 at 19:01:38:
Before hair is past shoulder length it is considered long, now that it is below the shoulder it is considerd long and all else is short. Its human nature to make those comparisions. However all of us go through the short, awkward and long stage. Anything past the awkward stage is considered long - its long enough to do what you want. PPR
Re: long?? hahahah
Posted by Dr. No. on October 22, 2001 at 19:07:54: Previous NextIn Reply to: long?? hahahah posted by cryptic_reign on October 22, 2001 at 17:50:33:
: I agree with Mr. Meatloaf, that guy has long, if not longish, hair. I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but there seems to be a bit of an elitist bias at this board from people who insist that only shoulder length hair is long hair.
There are a whole range of lengths between a buzz cut and shoulder length that allows for individual styles and preferences. One man's awkward stage is another man's perfection. I also welcome the fact that advertisers are promoting a more relaxed look.
Re: long?? hahahah
Posted by M. on October 22, 2001 at 22:52:59: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long?? hahahah posted by Dr. No. on October 22, 2001 at 19:07:54:
I also welcome the fact that advertisers are promoting a more relaxed look.
Without commenting on if the guy has long hair or not i just want to point out that that "more relaxed look" took a lot of time and work to be achieved. It is not so relaxed has it appears.
Re: Huh?
Posted by Dr. No on October 23, 2001 at 17:17:26: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long?? hahahah posted by M. on October 22, 2001 at 22:52:59:
: By more "relaxed look", I simply meant that some of the models chosen for ads these days are literally "letting their hair down." It was never implied that they don't take good care of their hair.
Re: Better style.......?
Posted by CJ on October 22, 2001 at 23:15:11:In Reply to: long?? hahahah posted by cryptic_reign on October 22, 2001 at 17:50:33:
I think this is a better style and this is how I hope to have my hair when it gets to this length.
Long/short
Posted by Saul on October 23, 2001 at 06:39:04: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: Better style.......? posted by CJ on October 22, 2001 at 23:15:11:
One of the more strange aspects of the Taleban regime is the way they stop Afgan men in the streets to measure the length of the guy's beard. If it's too short, boy do you get into hot water.
I'm not suggesting that anybody on this list is as nutty as that, but some people are getting close. Surely a long-haired guy is a longhaired guy is HE thinks that he is?
Just a thought.
Saul (whose hair is 5 inches long, right in the middle of the dreaded awkward stage.)
Re: Long/short
Posted by Bill on October 23, 2001 at 13:18:43: Previous NextIn Reply to: Long/short posted by Saul on October 23, 2001 at 06:39:04:
: One of the more strange aspects of the Taleban regime is the way they stop Afgan men in the streets to measure the length of the guy's beard. If it's too short, boy do you get into hot water.
: I'm not suggesting that anybody on this list is as nutty as that, but some people are getting close. Surely a long-haired guy is a longhaired guy is HE thinks that he is?
: Just a thought.
: Saul (whose hair is 5 inches long, right in the middle of the dreaded awkward stage.)
"Long" is a relative term, so we each have our own sense of what it means. There is also the "collective sense" of a term's meaning - how a majority of society would define it. In this thread we've been touching on both our private and the public senses of the meaning of the word "long".
I saw a friend at a party on Saturday. He had lost all his long hair due to cancer treatments. He was showing his drivers license to people he met, saying "this is the real me". I told him a lot of being a longhair is what you feel in your heart. We both cried.
Re: Long/short
Posted by Saul on October 23, 2001 at 18:36:25: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: Long/short posted by Bill on October 23, 2001 at 13:18:43:
: I told him a lot of being a longhair is what you feel in your heart.Amen to that.
My heart goes out to your friend.
Regards
Saul
Are all men with long hair longhairs?
Posted by Bill on October 22, 2001 at 23:55:47: Previous NextIn Reply to: long?? hahahah posted by cryptic_reign on October 22, 2001 at 17:50:33:
: that guy has short hair! and i'm not being sarcastic either. and yes long hair = past sholders
I'd call it "borderline long" or "longish", but some people would see it as long. In any event, it's nice! Far nicer than so many models we see almost devoid of hair.
It's been my experience that people might say a man "has long hair" at a shorter length than they will call him a "longhair". When a man's hair buries his ears quite a few people will say it is long, but few would apply the label "longhair" to him until his hair has passed his shoulders to the point it is falling on them.
This probably speaks to the concept that "long", as an adjective, is just describing the relative length of the man's hair to some other standard in the mind of the speaker. "Longhair" as a noun, slips you into a perceived social group, and the public is more of a common mind when it comes to defining social groups. When your hair has gotten long enough to suddenly earn you one or more of the perceived stereotypes we talk and sometimes joke about, then you're a longhair.
Put another way and in less words: "In the awkward stage you have long hair already but you aren't a longhair yet." :-)
This is likely why men in the awkward stage get hassled the most about their hair. Yeah, awkward stage hair looks funky, but beyond that, you're seen as a member of the shorthaired men's club still, but with hair too long, so they hassle you over it. Once you become a longhair, your hair fits your perceived social group and a lot of people will then see no incongruity and leave you alone.
As for longhairs being a social group, most likely we're loosely several different ones, and some longhairs don't identify with any group in particular. But what counts is that to people on the outside, the ones appending the label, we're one of "those people" - a group in their eyes. And "those people" are "the longhairs".
Of course, I don't mind the label. When a stranger first applied it to me, I considered it a rite of passage!
Bill
Re: Are all men with long hair longhairs?
Posted by Hair Religion on November 16, 2001 at 20:57:01: Previous NextIn Reply to: Are all men with long hair longhairs? posted by Bill on October 22, 2001 at 23:55:47:
Well, remember when the Beatles first stepped off of the plane in America? Everyone with short hair and white shirts was calling the Beatles (short) hair "long".
I'd have to say that longhair qualifiers are judged from 2 distinct perspectives: the "short haired person" and the "long haired person".
Personally, I'd feel more comfortable with the opinion of someone who is there or at least has been in the past. Who would know better?
Re: Here's the photo
Posted by Ottawa Male on October 27, 2001 at 18:09:51: Previous NextIn Reply to: Here's the photo posted by AJ on October 22, 2001 at 14:51:24:
We-e-e-ell-ll-ll.. I suppose in comparison to the rather shorn-back-n
-sides more-than-miltary look we often see amongst young'uns today,
that'd be long hair......relatively....OM
Re: long hair in style
Posted by Me on October 22, 2001 at 23:32:57: Previous Next
In Reply to: long hair in style posted by Justin on October 21, 2001 at 22:59:38:
That is short hair. For me to consider the hair to be long
I expect it to be down half way down the back or waist length.
Anything shorter I consider it short hair.
Close minded?
Posted by Scott on October 23, 2001 at 17:37:48: Previous NextIn Reply to: Re: long hair in style posted by Me on October 22, 2001 at 23:32:57:
I know 'long hair' has a different definition for everyone, but middle of the back-waist length? I'd say that's a little close-minded considering not many people have that sort of length.
Re: Close minded?
Posted by Hair Religion on November 14, 2001 at 01:11:08: Previous NextIn Reply to: Close minded? posted by Scott on October 23, 2001 at 17:37:48:
Long hairs and the label close-minded certainly don't go together.
For a good definition of what LONG hair is go to: http://hairreligion.com